Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2640233)
Finally, I am not very familar with evosport. What little I do know about them is that I thought they were BMW tuners. Do they engineer and manufacture there own stuff, or do they just resell Kleeman, Brabus and Renn stuff?
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Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2640233)
I was ready to ship my car to Renntech in Florida but this car caught my eye. Any info ASAP would be appreciated
Finally, I am not very familar with evosport. What little I do know about them is that I thought they were BMW tuners. Do they engineer and manufacture there own stuff, or do they just resell Kleeman, Brabus and Renn stuff? |
I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines? Thanks |
Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2640468)
I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
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Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2640468)
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines?
Thanks You can also do a search on the forum for more info as I can only share with you my personal experience. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions as well. Best of luck! |
Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2640468)
I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines? Thanks As for your dead-line question. My car is the first BS that they have touched, I'm sure there is a lot of R&D and experimentation going on. When I initially sent them the car I told them I needed the car completed by the 1st week of February. However, I threw quite a few additional large projects at them once they got started (roll bar, wheels and a few other things). I then gave them another dead-line of the end of February, it appears they are on track (no pun intended) for a late February completion. If you would like to send me a private message with your number I would be happy to fill you in, in greater detail. P.S. I hope it's not crashed...it looked fine when it left me LOL! |
Awesome car. I still haven't seen a BS at the track up here in Washington... or on the road for that matter. How often do you track the V? I'm excited to see what the '09 V can do out on the track.
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Originally Posted by jrcart
(Post 2640524)
P.S. I hope it's not crashed...it looked fine when it left me LOL!
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All I can say is...I wish I had more money!
Looks amazing--nicely done. :y |
Originally Posted by SeattleBum
(Post 2640582)
Awesome car. I still haven't seen a BS at the track up here in Washington... or on the road for that matter. How often do you track the V? I'm excited to see what the '09 V can do out on the track.
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Originally Posted by ET550
(Post 2631641)
How much labor/difficulty is involved in the installation process?
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Dymag Update
Look what a little English birdie dropped off today:
http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_01.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_02.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_03.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_04.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_05.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_06.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_07.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_08.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_09.jpg http://www.evosport.com/public/custo...S_dymag_10.jpg 19x10 Front, 17lbs 19x11 Rear, 17.5lbs *No realize, the weight is all in the middle, so these perform like a much lighter wheel then even that :D I know some people were concerned about the pics we posted earlier as they had a little yellow tint to the clear - well that was with the early production ones. These should match the car perfect! thanks Brad |
Brad,
So in actuality these Dymags you posted pics off which doesn't have that "yellow" CF effect will be produced like that? The finish or clearcoat on it looks amazing as well. Are the prices on these posted on evo.com? |
Originally Posted by LZH
(Post 2612310)
Brad - very nice work on the cage. The attention to detail is fantastic. The Dymags are really nice and will make the car that much more fun to drive, not to mention removing unsprung weight which will make the car faster, more nimble and brake even shorter. However, I just do not like the yellow hue on the carbon barrel. Especially right next to the air extractors as you can really see the difference in the factory, non heat treated carbon.
Excellent work - now post a sound clip of those headers :y The yellow hue is gone. Ours were apparently an earlier one and the process has been much refined. They came out with the CF almost perfect to the car.
Originally Posted by Jim Brady
(Post 2612435)
Brad,
I have several questions on the chrome moly roll bar. What is the diameter and wall thickness on the tubing? Secondly, are the mounting points to the floor, frame rails or seat belt pick up points. Although my car will see light track use, some clubs scrutinize safety equipment with very little flexibility and I don't want to have them drill a leather wrapped bar.
Originally Posted by jrcart
(Post 2612520)
Wow, I'm impressed. It turned out even better than I was expecting. I wanted a factory, OEM look, and you guys delivered.
Originally Posted by LZH
(Post 2612607)
+1 - spont on. The detail on that stitching is something to be proud of.
Originally Posted by LZH
(Post 2612683)
Looks like it's min 2.250 x .120 wall thickness. That's standard size for CM tubing widely used in the motorsports industry. I'm interested to know as well where the mounting points are.
They attach via the factory anchor on the rear seat back location and you need to drill one hole on the floor.
Originally Posted by JDB
(Post 2612841)
Your images really show off the quality and attention to detail that you have put into your modifications. Very impressive!
It'll be interesting to learn how all of this work has improved the performance of the car.
Originally Posted by Schiznick
(Post 2613294)
What did the car dyno as the baseline?
*I had put 422 before, but that was with smoothing turned up inadvertently. 419 is with smoothign at 0*
Originally Posted by Jim Brady
(Post 2629490)
Lotta eye candy getting me excited EVO, where's the beef?
You are local - come by and say hi. If you are in OPA, I am in Cowan Heights - we are practically neighbors!
Originally Posted by nrgy
(Post 2629633)
Yeah, I'm very anxious to hear the results as well. While I don't have a CLK BS, I'm hoping the headers and software are compatible with the C63. Everything in these pics look very well made.
Originally Posted by spr
(Post 2630428)
Nice rollbar especially the wrap. Looks very much like the tequipment bolt in Porsche one however that's aluminum- you might try that it weighed NOTHING! Also are there seat belt points to bolt it in? You might do it just like they do making it a true bolt in, although you have to bend them a little for fit usually to line up the holes-
It would drop the weight by 2/3.
Originally Posted by Addicted2Speed
(Post 2630921)
What you guys should do is install some carbon ceramic brakes :D
Originally Posted by EUROTEK//AMG
(Post 2631259)
!!! amazing job with the upgrades!!! :eek::bow::bow::y
Originally Posted by group5
(Post 2631318)
The Renault Maxi Group B (killer bee) car or it might have been the Tour de Course car had an aluminum cage. I made an exact copy for a customer out of 1 5/8" by 1/8" wall 6061T6. Obviously it is a lighter car, but I had the actual factory cage to duplicate.
Originally Posted by ET550
(Post 2631641)
How much labor/difficulty is involved in the installation process?
Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2640233)
That looks like it's going to be an amazing car. I am brand new to this forum today, I did not even know it existed. I just took delivery of my Black Series last month. I am looking to try to get some more HP out of her. I have been reading that none of the 63 motors are easy to squeeze much HP out of. I have a heavily modded CLS 55, which is tame enough for everyday driving but it's a rocket when I want it to be. Has anyone done anything that has given them any increases in HP or torque to any 63 motor? What kind of dyno numbers have you seen from this Black Series. Can you break down the HP increases for me. How much did the headers add, how much did the pulleys add, how much for the ECU, etc. What kind of mufflers did you run on this car? How much for the cage? Is that something you can ship me and I install myself or do I have to ship the car to California? I was ready to ship my car to Renntech in Florida but this car caught my eye. Any info ASAP would be appreciated
Finally, I am not very familar with evosport. What little I do know about them is that I thought they were BMW tuners. Do they engineer and manufacture there own stuff, or do they just resell Kleeman, Brabus and Renn stuff? We do manufacture parts for and tune Mercedes as a profession, just like BMW. Although our racing is focused on BMW (due to the nature of the market), Mercedes is a major focus. We have extremely well trained engineers and techs (including one who was a lead US Brabus tech). FYI, for those that do not know our BMW work, here is one thread on one car we recently built that is fun reading: TURBO e46 RACER
Originally Posted by nick 55
(Post 2640394)
:topic: But, I have gotten parts from Evosport and had great experiences. Renntech actually peeved me off last week, so I say boycott them and use Evosport. Nick
Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2640468)
I was just checking out all the photos of the project car a little closer, why is the front end blurred out in all of the exterior profile shots? Are they developing a new top secret nose or bumper cover? Has the car already been crashed? Just caught my eye and made me a bit curious.
Earlier this evening I did speak with someone at evosport about sending my Black Series to them for similar work. He seemed friendly and knowledgable. I see that the person posting above me would recomend evosport, how about the rest of you, anyone else care to share their experiences with evosport with me? Any input would be appreciated. Quality and timing are my two biggest concerns. Do the deliver what they promise? Do they meet deadlines? We are a younger company and we certainly have some customers with missed expectations or time-lines in our past. No company is perfect and sometimes it is impossible to please anyone. However, we strive to do the best we can, and we try not to hide from issues, rather address them head on. The more honest and direct we can be, the better for everyone!
Originally Posted by ET550
(Post 2641066)
I still haven't seen a response to my previous inquiry. I prefer not to ship my car to California for a roll cage installation and would really like to know the difficulty level of the install and whether you can recommend anyone in the CT/NY area to do the install.
Originally Posted by JamE55
(Post 2642311)
So in actuality these Dymags you posted pics off which doesn't have that "yellow" CF effect will be produced like that? The finish or clearcoat on it looks amazing as well. Are the prices on these posted on evo.com?
Thanks all! Brad |
Originally Posted by otoupalik
(Post 2642451)
We are a younger company and we certainly have some customers with missed expectations or time-lines in our past. No company is perfect and sometimes it is impossible to please anyone. However, we strive to do the best we can, and we try not to hide from issues, rather address them head on. The more honest and direct we can be, the better for everyone! About the Dymags - It's my understanding that the yellow hue in previous wheels was as a result of the heat treating process. Are these new carbon barrels heat treated ??? Thanks Brad ! |
Yes, thanks. The Eisenmann issue is a tough one. I had heard rumors, but to hear that it is confirmed really sucks.
Yes, it was with the treatment, they have simply refined and updated that process and they are able to have an end product that looks like this!!!! thanks Brad |
Wow....those are going to look amazing. And I can attest to the bolt on hp improvement with the Dymags. We saw a 37hp increase after putting them on one of our GT3 Cup cars. Reducing that rotating mass at the hub is key. The other benefit is greatly reduced braking distance allowing you to really carry lots of speed in and out of the turns.
This Black Series is going to be a F'ing beast on the track. I'd guess it'll turn laps in the 20's on the big track at Willow, possibly even teens if really pushed.... |
It just keeps getting better and better. Those wheels are insane! Are they available in a deeper lip offset? I know this is a Black Series thread, but are those wheels avaiable in a 19" fitment for a CLS 55? I'm rollin with a pair of one-off Fikse's, and I thought those were bada$$! Are Dymags custom built to order, or are they something I can get shipped in a few days? VERY INTERESTED FOR BOTH OF MY MB's!
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Originally Posted by LZH
(Post 2642746)
Wow....those are going to look amazing. And I can attest to the bolt on hp improvement with the Dymags. We saw a 37hp increase after putting them on one of our GT3 Cup cars. Reducing that rotating mass at the hub is key. The other benefit is greatly reduced braking distance allowing you to really carry lots of speed in and out of the turns.
This Black Series is going to be a F'ing beast on the track. I'd guess it'll turn laps in the 20's on the big track at Willow, possibly even teens if really pushed.... Very cool that you saw similar gains. We run them on a few of our cars (especially last year testing them on a bunch of different race cars) just have not dyno'ed with them. You can feel the difference on track, that is for sure. Turn in, braking, acceleration - everywhere!
Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2642752)
It just keeps getting better and better. Those wheels are insane! Are they available in a deeper lip offset? I know this is a Black Series thread, but are those wheels avaiable in a 19" fitment for a CLS 55? I'm rollin with a pair of one-off Fikse's, and I thought those were bada$$! Are Dymags custom built to order, or are they something I can get shipped in a few days? VERY INTERESTED FOR BOTH OF MY MB's!
Split 5 spoke: http://www.dymag.com/Update_Aug_2007...rbon%20mag.jpg Here they are on one of our race cars: http://www.dymag.com/Update_Aug_2007...MW_M3_Blue.jpg They are VERY unique which is hard to do today in a quality wheel. And you are buying performance. They are custom built to order in England. They take form 2 to 6 weeks depending on the size and options. You can read more here: DYMAG SITE Thanks Brad |
sorry, but what are these things on the wheel? :confused:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6...dymag06lx2.jpg and how much these badass cost? :D |
Originally Posted by Acez
(Post 2643282)
sorry, but what are these things on the wheel? :confused:
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6...dymag06lx2.jpg and how much these badass cost? :D |
correct!
Jim - so what do you think???? Do they exceed your expectations like they do mine! |
How much loot are we talking about here? Even if we are talking about $12,000 ( I would assume that is a high guesstimate) for a set I would consider that a relative bargain. If what everyone is saying about HP gains are true, 30-40 HP, plus improved handling, braking and killer looks...thats a bargain in my opinion. Hell, I paid $8800 for a set of headers that only gave me 26 HP, thats $338 per HP. If the wheels cost $12k and you see gains of 35 HP that equates to $342 per HP, thats a near equal investment. Sign me up!
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I was just on the Dymag website and I did not see a 19" x 11" fitment on their chart. Are you sure the wheels in the photo are 19"x 11"? Are you sure an 11" wide wheel is going to fit and clear everything?
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Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2643549)
How much loot are we talking about here? Even if we are talking about $12,000 ( I would assume that is a high guesstimate) for a set I would consider that a relative bargain. If what everyone is saying about HP gains are true, 30-40 HP, plus improved handling, braking and killer looks...thats a bargain in my opinion. Hell, I paid $8800 for a set of headers that only gave me 26 HP, thats $338 per HP. If the wheels cost $12k and you see gains of 35 HP that equates to $342 per HP, thats a near equal investment. Sign me up!
Originally Posted by 573WHPCLS
(Post 2643559)
I was just on the Dymag website and I did not see a 19" x 11" fitment on their chart. Are you sure the wheels in the photo are 19"x 11"? Are you sure an 11" wide wheel is going to fit and clear everything?
Pics on the car hopefully next week. We are going to try to go 285 front and 305 rear! Thanks brad |
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