** Evosport CLK63 Black Series Project **
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That sounds more like the flash counter. Each time the ECU is flashed, it registers 1, 2, 3 and so on. I can't see how they would, or beter yet COULD, flag a car for that....anyway, we're getting off topic so lets leave it at that...
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I guess we have it good here in Illinois, a vehicle has to be 4 years old before it is even put in the "lottery" to be emissions tested. Once in the "lottery" you just wait to be picked, considering that they only pick about 10-12% of the cars eligible for testing you have a 90% that you will not be picked. That is why I choose to eliminate my cats completely. I'm 36 years old and have owned dozens of cars over the years and only had one get emissions tested. Want to hear the best part? The car, my 95 M3 has no cats, it looks like It has cats, I just hollowed it out and ran a straight exhaust tube right through it. Passed with flying colors.This was a few years ago, before they started doing the OBD (on board diagnostic) testing, all they did was a visual inspection, the gas cap check and hook the hose up to the tail pipes. So I'm safe for at least 4 years, I'll address the emissions issue if and when it happens.
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I guess we have it good here in Illinois, a vehicle has to be 4 years old before it is even put in the "lottery" to be emissions tested. Once in the "lottery" you just wait to be picked, considering that they only pick about 10-12% of the cars eligible for testing you have a 90% that you will not be picked. That is why I choose to eliminate my cats completely. I'm 36 years old and have owned dozens of cars over the years and only had one get emissions tested. Want to hear the best part? The car, my 95 M3 has no cats, it looks like It has cats, I just hollowed it out and ran a straight exhaust tube right through it. Passed with flying colors.This was a few years ago, before they started doing the OBD (on board diagnostic) testing, all they did was a visual inspection, the gas cap check and hook the hose up to the tail pipes. So I'm safe for at least 4 years, I'll address the emissions issue if and when it happens.
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One other thing....as low as this car is going to be....and it's pretty damn low in stock form. Jcart has said it will be driven on the road mostly, that front splitter is going to get beat up badly without some sort of heavy duty ABS protector under it similar to whats available on the F430.
It won't stay mint forever...wreck it buy a new one!
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Hell yeah....Be careful with the clear bra on clearcoated carbon. The guy who does all my cars is the best in town. The entire nose of my car is covered in it...all the way to the windshield...every square inch, except for the carbon air extractors. My guy said there was a risk that if he did them and I ever had to take it off it might pull the clearcoat off. And, as it turns out....my car doesn't have a single chip on the front end bumper etc....but you can see a few on the carbon air extractors. Really glad I had it installed the second day I got it.
Your car is gonna be sick bro.
If you are gonna take it to willow, I might be able to make it and we can do some side by side comparisions and I might be able to get our Daytona Prototype driver/team owner, Gene Sigal, to come out and drive both cars. That way we'd have a very accurate comparison.
Your car is gonna be sick bro.
If you are gonna take it to willow, I might be able to make it and we can do some side by side comparisions and I might be able to get our Daytona Prototype driver/team owner, Gene Sigal, to come out and drive both cars. That way we'd have a very accurate comparison.
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Hell yeah....Be careful with the clear bra on clearcoated carbon. The guy who does all my cars is the best in town. The entire nose of my car is covered in it...all the way to the windshield...every square inch, except for the carbon air extractors. My guy said there was a risk that if he did them and I ever had to take it off it might pull the clearcoat off. And, as it turns out....my car doesn't have a single chip on the front end bumper etc....but you can see a few on the carbon air extractors.
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They are easily replacable and if I were to sell the car I'd take it off.... I get MB parts @ cost.
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So are these the final figures, 56 hp gain? If I am reading this correctly, this was for the headers, exhaust and ecu only. What about the pulleys? In our phone conversation you told me you had developed a pulley that should add significant gains. Was this done with prefilters and stock airfilters in place? I assume since you made no mention of an intake modification or after market filters they are stock. Have you run it on the dyno with the CF wheels? Any significant gains with the wheels? It is in impressive gain, but I was expecting to see more, especially with the cat delete. I spoke with Renntech this moring and they have sharpened their pencil and were able to squeez 30 HP out of their Black with shorties and ecu and did not touch anything else.
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Not that I am a design expert, but I thought it might look better if the upper part of the front spoiler which covers the stock lip was painted the body color with only the new extended lip portion being carbon fiber. Any photoshop experts here?
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Simon, are you guys building the headers in house or is Burns Stainless helping you out? Header design should work very nicely. What will you be doing for a cross-over, an X-pipe design?
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Although Burns does outstanding work, we have the technical and engineering ability in house to build these bits to fit the cars specifically (dimensionally and flow-wise), so we do it here. It is certainly more expensive to do it this way, but it is the only way to make sure the quality and end-product are what we want them to be.
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I already have a shop at home here in Chicago that is going to make me a skid plate. I have had them made for some of my other cars. I don't think Ferrari would use ABS, but then again maybe they would, ABS is not a very dense plastic. Usually they use Delrin, a nylon based material developed by DuPont, or Tegris, which is a polypropolene based material. Both materials are very dense, low friction and very resistant to heat. Tegris is newer, lighter and available in a dark graphite color which should help make it look as if it is not on the car. I am also considering a strip of the 3M clear protective film on the forward facing part of the splitter, I think it is going to take the most abuse from small rocks, dust and road debris.
So are these the final figures, 56 hp gain? If I am reading this correctly, this was for the headers, exhaust and ecu only. What about the pulleys? In our phone conversation you told me you had developed a pulley that should add significant gains. Was this done with prefilters and stock airfilters in place? I assume since you made no mention of an intake modification or after market filters they are stock. Have you run it on the dyno with the CF wheels? Any significant gains with the wheels? It is in impressive gain, but I was expecting to see more, especially with the cat delete. I spoke with Renntech this moring and they have sharpened their pencil and were able to squeez 30 HP out of their Black with shorties and ecu and did not touch anything else.
Also, it is 56 WHEEL, which = 65 HP. This was header, exhaust and software. Pulley and airbox mods will be additional HP. The airbox mods have been completed and the production pulley kit was delayed (this car is leaving tomorrow, so the pulley will be added in Chicago).
We have done a pretty good amount of testing on air-box mods (including multiple filters). The modifications that were done are not in this dyno but are on the car. I am not going to list publicly the mods done as I am not willing to give our competition the recipe.
It has not been on the dyno with the Dymags or the airbox mods. We are just out of time, and I am not sure it will be on the dyno again. We are going to try to make one final pass tomorrow night, but the car might be gone already.
The software tuning was also not completed, and since this dyno road testing has refined the program.
As for the other tuner, well 30 hp v 65 hp - I think that speaks for itself. We pride ourselves on maximizing every angle of performance, not just taking the easy road.
As for a shorty header, I am very interested to see if it is a header or a log manifold. I see no way that a true header can be made in that space. If someone has figured it out, I would love to see the design and would applaud them. It is still a lot less HP though (less then half). Remember the first HP is the easiest, each and every single one after that costs much more then the first.
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Thanks! We are lucky to have great people!
OK - the BIG news.....
The car is 99% done. Teaser shots:
Thanks
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Now combine those wheels with the 360 Forged one and you'll have all carbon fiber wheels.
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Damn that is LOW !!!
Yikes....
I would be very hesitant to drive it around LA in that condition.
Jcart - If you come up to LA, be very careful....the roads have gotten so bad I guarantee you will rip that front end off. First intersection that comes to mind is Wilshire and Comstock....it's like a friggin ditch in the middle of the road. Seriously man, be careful....
Yikes....
I would be very hesitant to drive it around LA in that condition.
Jcart - If you come up to LA, be very careful....the roads have gotten so bad I guarantee you will rip that front end off. First intersection that comes to mind is Wilshire and Comstock....it's like a friggin ditch in the middle of the road. Seriously man, be careful....
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Damn that is LOW !!!
Yikes....
I would be very hesitant to drive it around LA in that condition.
Jcart - If you come up to LA, be very careful....the roads have gotten so bad I guarantee you will rip that front end off. First intersection that comes to mind is Wilshire and Comstock....it's like a friggin ditch in the middle of the road. Seriously man, be careful....
Yikes....
I would be very hesitant to drive it around LA in that condition.
Jcart - If you come up to LA, be very careful....the roads have gotten so bad I guarantee you will rip that front end off. First intersection that comes to mind is Wilshire and Comstock....it's like a friggin ditch in the middle of the road. Seriously man, be careful....
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:b ow::b ow:What time are you coming in, I will be down that way from 10-12p maybe we can meet up
You still down to run at the track?
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THAT is just amazing looking, I honestly can say I am IMPRESSED, DUDE YOUR CAR IS SICKER THAN SIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:b ow::b ow:
What time are you coming in, I will be down that way from 10-12p maybe we can meet up
You still down to run at the track?
:b ow::b ow:What time are you coming in, I will be down that way from 10-12p maybe we can meet up
You still down to run at the track?
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I wasn't a big fan of the dymags looks, but seeing them on the car has changed my mind. They really finish off the car and look great. And they seem to tie in the bigger carbon front and rear spoilers. A very aggressive yet subtle look.
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Everything is done in-house in our fabrication facility. Even fabricating the x-pipe. In case you haven't seen the pics of the x-pipe setup...
Although Burns does outstanding work, we have the technical and engineering ability in house to build these bits to fit the cars specifically (dimensionally and flow-wise), so we do it here. It is certainly more expensive to do it this way, but it is the only way to make sure the quality and end-product are what we want them to be.
Although Burns does outstanding work, we have the technical and engineering ability in house to build these bits to fit the cars specifically (dimensionally and flow-wise), so we do it here. It is certainly more expensive to do it this way, but it is the only way to make sure the quality and end-product are what we want them to be.
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Brad,
I think you'll need to stock some spare front spoilers.
The wheels look great on a side profile view.
Where are the photos of the new rotors...?
I'll post up photos of what I'm doing to enhance a second set of stock wheels for street use when I'm finished.
"Once you drive a black, you'll never go back"...
I think you'll need to stock some spare front spoilers.
The wheels look great on a side profile view.
Where are the photos of the new rotors...?
I'll post up photos of what I'm doing to enhance a second set of stock wheels for street use when I'm finished.
"Once you drive a black, you'll never go back"...
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Brad,
I think you'll need to stock some spare front spoilers.
The wheels look great on a side profile view.
Where are the photos of the new rotors...?
I'll post up photos of what I'm doing to enhance a second set of stock wheels for street use when I'm finished.
"Once you drive a black, you'll never go back"...
I think you'll need to stock some spare front spoilers.
The wheels look great on a side profile view.
Where are the photos of the new rotors...?
I'll post up photos of what I'm doing to enhance a second set of stock wheels for street use when I'm finished.
"Once you drive a black, you'll never go back"...
Yea, the profile of this offset on the wheels is amazing.
Lets see those wheels! Black with Time Attack stripe?
thanks
Brad
