ECU Tunning Who do you all recomend?
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee
2008 CLK 63 Cabrio 2006 SC Range Rover Sport H-D Road Glide
ECU Tunning Who do you all recomend?
Let me first start off by saying that I don't own a black series, just a standard CLK 63 cabrio, but I figured I would ask the experts. I'm kind of new here (last week) and very new to mb ownership, this is my first mb, I have owned several BMWs but I am not familar with who offers what for mb's. As I stated in another thread last week I am not looking to turn my car into a race car, just give it a little more pep. I am looking into some wheels/tires and am thinking about an ECU tune-up. Which tuners have you guys used and who do you recomend and why. Does it even make sense to do an ECU with stock mufflers and pipes on these 63 motors? Last but not least, is my 63 motor the same as the 63 black series motor internally, my dealership told me it was, but I never take what they say to heart, you know how dealers and salesmen can be. How does the black series get the extra 25-30hp from the factory over my CLK? Is it compression, heads, cams or is it just electronics? Can I just get a black series ECU tune to make up the extra hp?
thanks
thanks
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,309
Likes: 86
From: Cave Creek, AZ and Newport Beach
'22 G 63 AMG, '21 GLE 53 AMG, '20 NSX
Let me first start off by saying that I don't own a black series, just a standard CLK 63 cabrio, but I figured I would ask the experts. I'm kind of new here (last week) and very new to mb ownership, this is my first mb, I have owned several BMWs but I am not familar with who offers what for mb's. As I stated in another thread last week I am not looking to turn my car into a race car, just give it a little more pep. I am looking into some wheels/tires and am thinking about an ECU tune-up. Which tuners have you guys used and who do you recomend and why. Does it even make sense to do an ECU with stock mufflers and pipes on these 63 motors? Last but not least, is my 63 motor the same as the 63 black series motor internally, my dealership told me it was, but I never take what they say to heart, you know how dealers and salesmen can be. How does the black series get the extra 25-30hp from the factory over my CLK? Is it compression, heads, cams or is it just electronics? Can I just get a black series ECU tune to make up the extra hp?
thanks
thanks
The internals on 63's are all the same. The difference is exhaust, intake (black series) and electronics. Based upon my testing 60-120 mph the Evosport ecu upgrade knocked off a full second. That's a lot. Some tunners are more aggressive with there tuning but basicly, nobody has cracked the Siemans code for this ecu, so they are all changing four parameters, speed limiter, timing, fuel and throttle. That's it.
Just changing the ecu isn't that simple. The AMG ecu's on the Clk 63 also control transmission. The axel ratio of the clk is different than on the black series, so I think you'd have some drivability issues at the very least.
I'd find some better rubber as these cars need more grip even in stock form.
Jimmy
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee
2008 CLK 63 Cabrio 2006 SC Range Rover Sport H-D Road Glide
This almost sounds to good to be true, 85 hp out of an ECU tune on an aspirated motor. Keep in mind my CLK 63 cabrio only makes 475 in stock form. Who is DMS? I am new to MB ownership, but I have not yet come across this name in my searching and investigating. I am getting number tuners with claims of 30-40hp gains with an ECU only tune.
Trending Topics
Thread Starter
Almost a Member!
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee
2008 CLK 63 Cabrio 2006 SC Range Rover Sport H-D Road Glide
Very disapointing to say the least.
MB World Stories
The Best of Mercedes & AMG
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren
Verdad Gallardo
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine
Verdad Gallardo
Flawlessly Restored Mercedes 190E Evo II Heads to Auction
Verdad Gallardo
Electric Mercedes C-Class Unveiled: 11 Things You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes EQS Gets A Major Update: Everything You Need to Know
Verdad Gallardo
5 Underrated Mercedes-Benz Models That Don't Get the Love They Deserve
Verdad Gallardo
Mercedes 300D Has Pushed Well Past 1 Million Miles and It Ain't Stopping
Verdad Gallardo
10 Most Reliable Mercedes-Benz Models You Can Buy Used
Verdad Gallardo
Banned
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,587
Likes: 0
'09 C63 AMG
Yes, Modern Horsepower/MHP, I was all ready to send him my ECU this week or next week but then I realized what an un-professional business person he was. Besides that it is starting to appear that he can not offer all of the stuff he says he can. He supposedly had a car on the dyno last tuesday and he has yet to post up any dyno charts or proof of what he is claiming. He is also claiming to be working with several MB dealerships about offer his tunes as dealer addded options that will be fully factory warrantied which is a false statement.
Very disapointing to say the least.
Very disapointing to say the least.
We've done nothing but deliver dyno graphs, track vids, road vids, testimony from other mbworld.org members (with substantially more credibility than you) and all you've done is personally attack us, take our statements out of context and attempt to spin them in your favor.
Grow up.
Senior Member
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 273
Likes: 0
From: NY
CLK63 BS AUDI S5 AUDI Q7 4.2 SLine C230 Sport 2010 ML 350
Yes, Modern Horsepower/MHP, I was all ready to send him my ECU this week or next week but then I realized what an un-professional business person he was. Besides that it is starting to appear that he can not offer all of the stuff he says he can. He supposedly had a car on the dyno last tuesday and he has yet to post up any dyno charts or proof of what he is claiming. He is also claiming to be working with several MB dealerships about offer his tunes as dealer addded options that will be fully factory warrantied which is a false statement.
Very disapointing to say the least.
Very disapointing to say the least.
The fact that you have gathered the above from all the posting that Andy has done would lead me to believe that you must be about 6 years old. But the fact that you're referencing a 25 yr old movie and (still finding it funny) obviously means otherwise. Why don't u pick up the phone and call Andy instead of posting absurd nonsense. "Appears he can not offer all the stuff he says he can"????
WTF are u talkin about man ? Please provide specific examples instead of spouting off nonsense. You fargon Corksucker. Andys #1 Cheerleader - JT
MBWorld Fanatic!
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,069
Likes: 3
From: South Carolina
2005 E55 ///AMG
Nothing against MHP, but we have not seen a history of your ECU/TCU tunes and how the vehicles hold up. All of the tuner companies could go to the very edge of tuning and make your car go absolutely incredible...for about 5K miles and then you start to have mechanical issues.
Not saying yours does or will, but we don't have that history yet...especially in the AMG world.
Powerchips has been doing ECU tunes for 15 years give or take and has a good rep for not toasting the vehicles they work on. I do not believe they do TCU yet which I believe will help MHP become a real player.
I wish everyone good luck as we all benefit from it.
Not saying yours does or will, but we don't have that history yet...especially in the AMG world.
Powerchips has been doing ECU tunes for 15 years give or take and has a good rep for not toasting the vehicles they work on. I do not believe they do TCU yet which I believe will help MHP become a real player.
I wish everyone good luck as we all benefit from it.
