clkwork

Oh heck no, it's just a little dirty. My girlfriend has her own car to drive!

SMP

Jim, it's only lighting. Or perhaps I'm a bad photographer. It's got the stock spoiler.

clkwork

How much lower than stock is that? That looks even lower than I imagined.

I just went outside and took some quick measurements. It looks like the front is 50mm between wheel and fender and the rear is 30mm. The rear actually looks ok now that I look at it, but the front is still way too high IMO. Maybe I will leave the rear alone and just bring down the front so the wheel gap is about the same.

SMP

The BS is a direct derivative of the F1 safety car. If you ever saw one in person, it is not much lower than the street BS and there is a good reason for that. It had to work on the track leading a pack of F1 cars. You might not see it on TV, but some of the tracks are bumpy and the suspension needs some room to travel for keeping contact with the road. And since Bert Maylaender is a professional driver, I think he has a word on set up.
Hence my license plate "FORMEL 1", german for formula 1. BTW, it also shows the rear spoiler.

user z478747

Man, those wheels look great on your car! Love it!

jrcart

I'm 0-2 on photo obsrevations today, I think I better make an appointment to get my eyes checked..........

SMP

Jeff, if you lower the car only in the front you concentrate more weight to the front wheels and take some off the rear. With that set up it's going to be tail happy.

jrcart

Don't level it off, the front needs to sit up at least 10mm higher than the rear, there is a lot more weight up front and under heavy braking you don't want to overload the front end or bottom out, it will most likely result in terrible understeer.

clkwork

Bah! I just can't win today. I didn't even think about that.

So is your front 20mm higher than the rear like mine sits now?

clkwork

Agreed, those wheels look great.

jrcart

My front sits about 12mm higher than the rear, but remember I have different rate springs in my car than you have in yours so we can't even compare the two set-ups, spring rate is a HUGE factor in this.

clkwork

Yea, that shows how little I know about suspension setups. I should probably just send it to evosport for some new springs and adjustments.

SMP

Thanks Chuck! I think they go good with the car and much easier to clean then the stock ones, trust me.

jrcart

You would not have to send it all the way to Evosport, they might have a dealer in your area, plus you are not too far from lots of big name race teams, where there are race teams there is vast knowledge. Do some research for a good shop in your area, it can't hurt

LZH

The stock wheels take me about an hour to clean - such a PITA !!! Great discussion guys, lots of good info here regaring different suspension setups.

otoupalik

We do have a spacer kit for this car. We also have a few different lower kits with different spring rates (sport, race, etc).

Feel free to give myself or Simon a call and we can get you squared away easily enough!

It is amazing for a car that is pretty rare, we seem to be spending about 50% of our time in the shop and on the phones assisting BS customers!

Thanks
Brad

LZH

That's becasue they are BAD ***. I'm thinkin of pickin up a spare to race out - whadda say ?

jrcart

....and because they built the quickest, fastest and badest one(s) on the planet


I would love to have a Black Series tuner shootout, I will put Evosports work up against Renntech, Brabus, Kleemann or any other tuner that wants to take a stab at it. Evosport found a way to greatly improve on near perfection.

DFW01E55

Now you're gonna' get it started over here too!

10 - 9 - 8 - 7 ....

Jim Brady

Ok, I just finished a track event with the revised suspension settings. If you want looks only and drop the car on stock suspension with the front lower than the rear it will be the WORST of both world. It destroy the front spoiler on every driveway and overseer like a 79 porsche turbo. That means its deadly in not a good way.

Keep the front 10-12mm higher than the front. If you go too low you will loose shock travel and be riding on the bump stops.
Jimmu

jrcart

Jim, 12mm higher in the front is the exact height I mine is set at, I even stated that above. I actually have all the measurments and specs and shock settings written down somewhere for my front and rear settings. I will post them when I get a chance, but as you know suspension really needs to be fine tuned for a specific track and more importantly a specific driver and his/her driving style. Maybe it will help out a few of the others on the board or at least give them a starting point. I would assume my Dymags and wider rubber skew my settings slightly over someone with stock wheels and rubber.

otoupalik

THANKS for the support Jim.

I am going to work on the magazines for just such a thing!

jrcart

Let me know, my car is available should something like that become a reality.

Brad, one more thing I have been meaning to ask, are you guys getting close on the rear rotors? Let me know, that would be some nice additional weight savings. Also let me know what you have available for the fronts if anything.

otoupalik

Rears can ship Monday or Tuesday, no problem. Fronts, we are at an impasse as nobody makes a blank rotor that size, so we will have to cast our own to move forward, and we are looking into the cost.

Jim Brady

I didn't see your post, but thats good to see we've come to the same number
independantly. I'm still playing with shock settings as i'm pretty happy with the ride height. Your right each track is different just as each driver is.
Jimmy