Track brakes
11-21-2008, 12:19 PM
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Not sure if they make it for your toys, but I have tracked a C32 and a E55 and FRIED both of their stock brakes, aka fade and warped rotors.
I Switched BOTH cars over to EBC Redstuff "Occansional track use formula" and had NO brake fade at all during a 30 minute session. Note, the rotors actually survived as well. The stock pads, on these cars, are JUNK for track use. They absorbed WAY too much heat and fade easily, if you ddrive like you stole it.
EBC also makes a yellow stuff aka TRACK pad, made out of Kevlar, but it WILL require heat to work. Namely your first couple of stops are going to required a MUCH harder brake push. Note to self DO NOT allow wifey to drive on Yellow stuff.
Good luck, and let me know if you guys ever make it to Beaverun, Watkins Glen, or Mid Ohio as I will gladly meet up with you.
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PS: A SL63 and SL65 were both running on my last event with NO brake issues, however they were NOT pushing their cars hard at all.
Not sure if they make it for your toys, but I have tracked a C32 and a E55 and FRIED both of their stock brakes, aka fade and warped rotors.
I Switched BOTH cars over to EBC Redstuff "Occansional track use formula" and had NO brake fade at all during a 30 minute session. Note, the rotors actually survived as well. The stock pads, on these cars, are JUNK for track use. They absorbed WAY too much heat and fade easily, if you ddrive like you stole it.
EBC also makes a yellow stuff aka TRACK pad, made out of Kevlar, but it WILL require heat to work. Namely your first couple of stops are going to required a MUCH harder brake push. Note to self DO NOT allow wifey to drive on Yellow stuff.
Good luck, and let me know if you guys ever make it to Beaverun, Watkins Glen, or Mid Ohio as I will gladly meet up with you.
See yeah
PS: A SL63 and SL65 were both running on my last event with NO brake issues, however they were NOT pushing their cars hard at all.
11-21-2008, 01:51 PM
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I think he would disagree with you.
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Note: Just pointing out some info that I had, not trying to stir the pot.
11-21-2008, 02:54 PM
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11-21-2008, 03:22 PM
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"40 laps at Road America and I toasted 4 pads, warped the front rotors and spent a brand new set of Corsas, those 165 miles"
I think a pad change here is DEFINITLY in order
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PS: Hate to steal jrcarts quotes, but maybe he will chime in about the stock pads
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11-21-2008, 05:12 PM
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I guess you missed the first sentence my friend from the same post
"40 laps at Road America and I toasted 4 pads, warped the front rotors and spent a brand new set of Corsas, those 165 miles"
I think a pad change here is DEFINITLY in order
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PS: Sorry for stealing your quotes jrcart. How about chiming in about the stock pads
"40 laps at Road America and I toasted 4 pads, warped the front rotors and spent a brand new set of Corsas, those 165 miles"
I think a pad change here is DEFINITLY in order
See yeah
PS: Sorry for stealing your quotes jrcart. How about chiming in about the stock pads
Jim is talking about a heavily modified CLK Black not a stock car.
The stock pads are not junk as you said and the solution for Jim is far more complicated than changing pads.
While the CLK Black hides it's weight very well, braking is one of the areas that it's 4000 lbs show up. If you push the car super hard on the track you will go through brakes just as you do in any track car. I know people that run their CLK Blacks multiple track days without needing tires or brakes but they don't push their cars.
I even commented above that I have gone through pads and rotors but I also know just how hard that I push the car and it is expected.
The CLK Black is by far the most out of the box track worthy car that AMG has produced to date. I wouldn't underestimate just how track worthy it is in stock form with stock components. Tires and brakes to me are consumables.
Go drive one on the track and you will see for yourself.....
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11-21-2008, 07:59 PM
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Actually you missed the point.
Jim is talking about a heavily modified CLK Black not a stock car.
The stock pads are not junk as you said and the solution for Jim is far more complicated than changing pads.
While the CLK Black hides it's weight very well, braking is one of the areas that it's 4000 lbs show up. If you push the car super hard on the track you will go through brakes just as you do in any track car. I know people that run their CLK Blacks multiple track days without needing tires or brakes but they don't push their cars.
I even commented above that I have gone through pads and rotors but I also know just how hard that I push the car and it is expected.
The CLK Black is by far the most out of the box track worthy car that AMG has produced to date. I wouldn't underestimate just how track worthy it is in stock form with stock components. Tires and brakes to me are consumables.
Go drive one on the track and you will see for yourself.....
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Jim is talking about a heavily modified CLK Black not a stock car.
The stock pads are not junk as you said and the solution for Jim is far more complicated than changing pads.
While the CLK Black hides it's weight very well, braking is one of the areas that it's 4000 lbs show up. If you push the car super hard on the track you will go through brakes just as you do in any track car. I know people that run their CLK Blacks multiple track days without needing tires or brakes but they don't push their cars.
I even commented above that I have gone through pads and rotors but I also know just how hard that I push the car and it is expected.
The CLK Black is by far the most out of the box track worthy car that AMG has produced to date. I wouldn't underestimate just how track worthy it is in stock form with stock components. Tires and brakes to me are consumables.
Go drive one on the track and you will see for yourself.....
My .02
11-22-2008, 07:34 AM
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Actually you missed the point.
Jim is talking about a heavily modified CLK Black not a stock car.
Point taken
The stock pads are not junk as you said and the solution for Jim is far more complicated than changing pads.
I never said they were, I said C32 and E55 AMG pads are junk
While the CLK Black hides it's weight very well, braking is one of the areas that it's 4000 lbs show up. If you push the car super hard on the track you will go through brakes just as you do in any track car. I know people that run their CLK Blacks multiple track days without needing tires or brakes but they don't push their cars.
I even commented above that I have gone through pads and rotors but I also know just how hard that I push the car and it is expected.
The CLK Black is by far the most out of the box track worthy car that AMG has produced to date. I wouldn't underestimate just how track worthy it is in stock form with stock components. Tires and brakes to me are consumables.
Agree in full, but why not make a simple upgrade, if it is avaible
Go drive one on the track and you will see for yourself.....
Love to, when can I meet you and yours
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Jim is talking about a heavily modified CLK Black not a stock car.
Point taken
The stock pads are not junk as you said and the solution for Jim is far more complicated than changing pads.
I never said they were, I said C32 and E55 AMG pads are junk
While the CLK Black hides it's weight very well, braking is one of the areas that it's 4000 lbs show up. If you push the car super hard on the track you will go through brakes just as you do in any track car. I know people that run their CLK Blacks multiple track days without needing tires or brakes but they don't push their cars.
I even commented above that I have gone through pads and rotors but I also know just how hard that I push the car and it is expected.
The CLK Black is by far the most out of the box track worthy car that AMG has produced to date. I wouldn't underestimate just how track worthy it is in stock form with stock components. Tires and brakes to me are consumables.
Agree in full, but why not make a simple upgrade, if it is avaible
Go drive one on the track and you will see for yourself.....
Love to, when can I meet you and yours
My .02
Hey its all good, I was just making a point that usually the stock pads, even a BS are a compromise for the average owner. Not ALL BS owners are going to track their car. Hence AMG knows this and makes a pad selection that is BEST for all around usage, NOT just the track my friend.
Oh well, to each his own. I was simply trying to make a point/fact that STOCK parts do have limitations, and are NOT always best. have fun
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11-23-2008, 11:30 AM
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Actually you missed the point.
Jim is talking about a heavily modified CLK Black not a stock car.
The stock pads are not junk as you said and the solution for Jim is far more complicated than changing pads.
While the CLK Black hides it's weight very well, braking is one of the areas that it's 4000 lbs show up. If you push the car super hard on the track you will go through brakes just as you do in any track car. I know people that run their CLK Blacks multiple track days without needing tires or brakes but they don't push their cars.
I even commented above that I have gone through pads and rotors but I also know just how hard that I push the car and it is expected.
The CLK Black is by far the most out of the box track worthy car that AMG has produced to date. I wouldn't underestimate just how track worthy it is in stock form with stock components. Tires and brakes to me are consumables.
Go drive one on the track and you will see for yourself.....
My .02
Jim is talking about a heavily modified CLK Black not a stock car.
The stock pads are not junk as you said and the solution for Jim is far more complicated than changing pads.
While the CLK Black hides it's weight very well, braking is one of the areas that it's 4000 lbs show up. If you push the car super hard on the track you will go through brakes just as you do in any track car. I know people that run their CLK Blacks multiple track days without needing tires or brakes but they don't push their cars.
I even commented above that I have gone through pads and rotors but I also know just how hard that I push the car and it is expected.
The CLK Black is by far the most out of the box track worthy car that AMG has produced to date. I wouldn't underestimate just how track worthy it is in stock form with stock components. Tires and brakes to me are consumables.
Go drive one on the track and you will see for yourself.....
My .02
