BS down on the 5 in the OC
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BS down on the 5 in the OC
I saw a silver BS with black wheels, that looked to be disabled, on the southbound side of the 5 fwy today, Sunday, at around 6:00 PM.
I hope it was nothing serious
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I hope it was nothing serious
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The only socal silver BS with black wheels that I know of is that kid that used to post here who wrecked 2 other BS. Prob him...Were they aftermarket wheels ? That's what he has...20's IIRC.
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Guys, that was my car. Steve from Weistec was driving the car to the dyno when one of the brand new front wheels that evosport sold me cracked in half. Those are, or should I say those were the new drag wheels. What are the chances that one of you guys would have seen the car on the side of the road? Small small world. I'm not sure what brand those wheels were but as soon as I find out I will let everone know so that they can stay away. Those wheels were just monted on the car over the weekend and driven on for less than 20 miles. I will post up a pic when I get a chance, I'm posting from a phone right now.
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Guys, that was my car. Steve from Weistec was driving the car to the dyno when one of the brand new front wheels that evosport sold me cracked in half. Those are or should I say were the new drag wheels. What are the chancesvthat one of you guys would have seen the car on the side of the road? Small small world. I'm not sure what brand those wheels were but as soon as I find out I will let everone know so that they can stay away. Those wheels were just monted on the car over the weekend and driven on for less than 20 miles. I will post up a pic when I get a chance, I'm posting from a phone right now.
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Here is a photo that Steve from Weistec sent me. As you can see the wheel literally split in half. I'm no expert but I don't think you should be able to see inner tire carcass from the outside of a wheel. As soon as I find out who the manufacturer of this wheel is I will be sure to post it up so everyone can stay away.
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Sorry to hear about that...any damage other than the wheel? I'm excited to hear about your s/c install and good luck with it...very interested on your feedback on its performance.
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Here is a photo that Steve from Weistec sent me. As you can see the wheel literally split in half. I'm no expert but I don't think you should be able to see inner tire carcass from the outside of a wheel. As soon as I find out who the manufacturer of this wheel is I will be sure to post it up so everyone can stay away.
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No other damages, Steve felt something as if a tire was going down and pulled over right away.
What keeps going through my head is what if we would not have hit rush hour traffic on Friday afternoon on the way to the drag event and decided to not make the trek to Famoso we would have been making 140mph passes on those wheels, it could have been real ugly.
What keeps going through my head is what if we would not have hit rush hour traffic on Friday afternoon on the way to the drag event and decided to not make the trek to Famoso we would have been making 140mph passes on those wheels, it could have been real ugly.
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No other damages, Steve felt something as if a tire was going down and pulled over right away.
What keeps going through my head is what if we would not have hit rush hour traffic on Friday afternoon on the way to the drag event and decided to not make the trek to Famoso we would have been making 140mph passes on those wheels, it could have been real ugly.
What keeps going through my head is what if we would not have hit rush hour traffic on Friday afternoon on the way to the drag event and decided to not make the trek to Famoso we would have been making 140mph passes on those wheels, it could have been real ugly.
Very true. I guess you have to look on the bright side because it could have been much worse.
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," Those are drag wheels and should not be used on public roads" .....hmmm so they are safe on a drag strip at 140mph but not on the 5 at 55mph? He also said "maybe the powder coating had something to do with it"...What??? powder coating causing a wheel to split in half with less than 20 miles of use? I've been powder coating car and motorcycle wheels for 20 years and have never heard of such a thing. has anyone else heard of powder coating causing a rim to split in half?
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Brads excuse," Those are drag wheels and should not be used on public roads" .....hmmm so they are safe on a drag strip at 140mph but not on the 5 at 55mph? He also said "maybe the powder coating had something to do with it"...What??? powder coating causing a wheel to split in half with less than 20 miles of use? I've been powder coating car and motorcycle wheels for 20 years and have never heard of such a thing. has anyone else heard of powder coating causing a rim to split in half?
Pass the buck. I see this thread getting soon. Mods should at least let members respond after the sponsor before locking the thread.
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I have been reading this thread and everything that has transpired with the supercharger, good stuff so far.
No to play devil's advocate but isn't a drag strip very smooth? Were you driving the car when it broke? COuld the person driving the car have hit a large pot hole or done something erratic? Are california roads well maintained?
anyhow those are just my initial thoughts. I have been racing bikes for a long time and rims we use to race are not rims I would use on a daily ride down a mountain because I know they are not as strong but they are lighter and make me faster on race day. Cars are different of course but in drag racing you are putting yourself at risk and if a rim is intended only to race down a smooth surface I do understand how it could break on the road when it is designed to be as light and fast as possible.
Of course it could also be a manufacturing issue and that would be easy enough to research via the web.
Good luck.
No to play devil's advocate but isn't a drag strip very smooth? Were you driving the car when it broke? COuld the person driving the car have hit a large pot hole or done something erratic? Are california roads well maintained?
anyhow those are just my initial thoughts. I have been racing bikes for a long time and rims we use to race are not rims I would use on a daily ride down a mountain because I know they are not as strong but they are lighter and make me faster on race day. Cars are different of course but in drag racing you are putting yourself at risk and if a rim is intended only to race down a smooth surface I do understand how it could break on the road when it is designed to be as light and fast as possible.
Of course it could also be a manufacturing issue and that would be easy enough to research via the web.
Good luck.
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I have been reading this thread and everything that has transpired with the supercharger, good stuff so far.
No to play devil's advocate but isn't a drag strip very smooth? Were you driving the car when it broke? COuld the person driving the car have hit a large pot hole or done something erratic? Are california roads well maintained?
anyhow those are just my initial thoughts. I have been racing bikes for a long time and rims we use to race are not rims I would use on a daily ride down a mountain because I know they are not as strong but they are lighter and make me faster on race day. Cars are different of course but in drag racing you are putting yourself at risk and if a rim is intended only to race down a smooth surface I do understand how it could break on the road when it is designed to be as light and fast as possible.
Of course it could also be a manufacturing issue and that would be easy enough to research via the web.
Good luck.
No to play devil's advocate but isn't a drag strip very smooth? Were you driving the car when it broke? COuld the person driving the car have hit a large pot hole or done something erratic? Are california roads well maintained?
anyhow those are just my initial thoughts. I have been racing bikes for a long time and rims we use to race are not rims I would use on a daily ride down a mountain because I know they are not as strong but they are lighter and make me faster on race day. Cars are different of course but in drag racing you are putting yourself at risk and if a rim is intended only to race down a smooth surface I do understand how it could break on the road when it is designed to be as light and fast as possible.
Of course it could also be a manufacturing issue and that would be easy enough to research via the web.
Good luck.
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Anything is possible and I'm not blaming evosport for the wheel, I just thought that Brads excuse for possibly the powder coating causing it was comical. As you can see from the pic it is a clean break all the way around at a weld point, obviously some sort of manufacturing defect. A pot hole would have caused the rim to fail on the lip or near the bead most likely.
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I just tought i put in my 2 cents since ive modifued my wheel by changing the hoops and the offset on the same wheels a few times over the years. There is no way that powedr coating would cause that split. if anything because powder coating is charging the paint with one polarity and the base with another(+/-) it will add to the protection of the wheel. This wheel was simply not welded good enough on the hoop area, i'm not sure if its a 3 piece with rivits or 3 piece that was welded. ive seen that happen on 3 piece wheels because either the locking rivits werent properly lock ight or in case of weld they werent welded correctly. This can be cause due to a few things: not properly preping the serface before welding, not welding the spokes to the hoop perfectly centered or simply a bad weld job. again these are assumptions if this is a 3 piece welded wheel, if its a two piece or even a one piece and teh hoop just cracked like that, then its just down right crappy materials which is hard to understand becauser there are 3 companies that make hoops and they are all fairly godd and known, so the only other thing that comes to mind is that the wheel manufactorer polished the hoops down to shave off weight which in turn will make them super weak. hope that helped. best of luck and that is one sick BS
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Unless the wheels were baked at too high of a temperature I would think powder coating would be a non-event.
Rich...dumb question but were/are the drag wheels DOT? I just ask this as you could have had a real problem if something more serious happened (thinking insurance)...anyways glad no one was hurt.
Rich...dumb question but were/are the drag wheels DOT? I just ask this as you could have had a real problem if something more serious happened (thinking insurance)...anyways glad no one was hurt.
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It seems that baking wheels at the wrong temperature can damage the aluminum making it brittle and prone to cracking rather than bending. HRE told me this, and other aluminum people told me this too when I was shopping for a refinish. Other shops said nothing could go wrong arguing that all wheels are powder coated and when do you hear about problems regarding damage after powder coating?
Forged wheels might be more sensible to this as they are weight optimized compared to cast wheels that use more aluminum to compensate the lower quality.
Just my 2¢
Forged wheels might be more sensible to this as they are weight optimized compared to cast wheels that use more aluminum to compensate the lower quality.
Just my 2¢
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Holy smokes!!
Thought i've seen everything but this is the first. How many wheels were damaged? Just one i'm guessing? Did the split happen exactly in the middle? That's just crazy.
Hope you get everything worked out Rich.
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Thought i've seen everything but this is the first. How many wheels were damaged? Just one i'm guessing? Did the split happen exactly in the middle? That's just crazy.
Hope you get everything worked out Rich.
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It seems that baking wheels at the wrong temperature can damage the aluminum making it brittle and prone to cracking rather than bending. HRE told me this, and other aluminum people told me this too when I was shopping for a refinish. Other shops said nothing could go wrong arguing that all wheels are powder coated and when do you hear about problems regarding damage after powder coating?
Forged wheels might be more sensible to this as they are weight optimized compared to cast wheels that use more aluminum to compensate the lower quality.
Forged wheels might be more sensible to this as they are weight optimized compared to cast wheels that use more aluminum to compensate the lower quality.
Here's another related post: https://mbworld.org/forums/clk63-bla...ml#post4476777.
Not saying this caused the specific failure with jrcart's wheel, but I wouldn't do it when forged wheels are designed to be as light as they can be. Painting is a safer bet for forged wheels.