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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 12:16 AM
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I'm willing to bet that has more to do with the relative strength of the Euro and Yen. They even increased the base price of the SLS by 6000 dollars for the 2012 model to recoup some of the difference. The profit margin is MUCH higher outside of the US. The economy was in a much different place in fall 2007 when the CLK was released.
Ya, I don't disagree. I was told that when I ordered my E550 that the allocations were going to Russia and China as there was a bigger profit margin and that's why my dealer didn't have the selection he use to.

USA is still the biggest market and my dealer still gets the most AMG's. SLS's are now a order only vehicle for most MB dealers. Some guys are waiting over 6 mos.
This is the result of a devalued dollar which is a political tyraid I don't want to get into.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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My stealer in VA has an un-sold red SLS convertible for sale. They also have a beautiful Ferrari 599, a white/blue 06 Ford GTwith 1.3K miles and an 01 RR Corniche convertible with 9k miles. It seems a lot of people in VA (according to the owner) are trading their toys for more practical rides. It's a buyers market!
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 05:45 PM
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First video I've seen from the Laguna Seca introduction. Watching the navigation screen, not sure what the red and green and the #4 is all about. I don't think the 4 signifies what gear he's in because he's going up and down in gears plus the number never changed in the video and I don't think red and green signify if he's on the gas or brakes. My only guess is if it is a lap timer, maybe the red and green signifies that he's ahead or behind his last lapped time. If that is the case that would be a pretty cool feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcVrVLfLbs
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 05:54 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LOVEMYBS
My stealer in VA has an un-sold red SLS convertible for sale. They also have a beautiful Ferrari 599, a white/blue 06 Ford GTwith 1.3K miles and an 01 RR Corniche convertible with 9k miles. It seems a lot of people in VA (according to the owner) are trading their toys for more practical rides. It's a buyers market!
My dealer has an SLS cabrio coming in that was a special order and the buyer just backed out, dealer told me they would sell it to me for under MSRP. The same thing happemed to them with an SLR cabrio about 3 years ago the car sat and sat and sat until they wholesaled it nearly 2 years later. Can you image having to auction or wholesale a brand new car like that? Obviously the SLS is selling a lot better than the SLR ever did but my dealer is a little gun shy after that mess.
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 08:29 PM
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My dealer has an SLS cabrio coming in that was a special order and the buyer just backed out, dealer told me they would sell it to me for under MSRP. The same thing happemed to them with an SLR cabrio about 3 years ago the car sat and sat and sat until they wholesaled it nearly 2 years later. Can you image having to auction or wholesale a brand new car like that? Obviously the SLS is selling a lot better than the SLR ever did but my dealer is a little gun shy after that mess.
You may find this shocking but I paid 17000 odd pounds less than I should have for the SLS

its madness
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 12:05 AM
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And my dealer called me to come in and look at an SLS cabrio they had available yesterday. Alubeam Silver w/ red and black interior, ceramic brake package etc. $240K MSRP. Car looks much better than the coupe.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LOVEMYBS
My stealer in VA has an un-sold red SLS convertible for sale. They also have a beautiful Ferrari 599, a white/blue 06 Ford GTwith 1.3K miles and an 01 RR Corniche convertible with 9k miles. It seems a lot of people in VA (according to the owner) are trading their toys for more practical rides. It's a buyers market!

I follow the FGT market pretty close and low mileage cars are still going for over msrp with a stong demand. What's the dealer asking? The others not so special.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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I follow the FGT market pretty close and low mileage cars are still going for over msrp with a stong demand. What's the dealer asking? The others not so special.
Yeah, the GT market still kind of surprises me, in a good way. As far as the SLS goes, I see demand of the coupe far outstripping the roadster in the long run. Traditionally later model hardtop supercars are more desirable by collectors, with some exceptions. Almost every review of the roadster tends to have a hint of disappointment with the loss of the doors, that is only balanced by the ability to hear the engine better. Also, a couple of the reviews of the SLS roadster I've seen mention the general public thinking its just the next model SL.

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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 08:32 PM
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Yeah, the GT market still kind of surprises me, in a good way. As far as the SLS goes, I see demand of the coupe far outstripping the roadster in the long run. Traditionally later model hardtop supercars are more desirable by collectors, with some exceptions. Almost every review of the roadster tends to have a hint of disappointment with the loss of the doors, that is only balanced by the ability to hear the engine better. Also, a couple of the reviews of the SLS roadster I've seen mention the general public thinking its just the next model SL.

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That 458 spyder looks better topless than its hardtop sibling as does the Audi R8 convert IMO. Some other roadsters/spyder/cabrios look as if they were an afterthought..."hey, let's cut the roof off of it and call it a spyder" LOL
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 09:08 PM
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I follow the FGT market pretty close and low mileage cars are still going for over msrp with a stong demand. What's the dealer asking? The others not so special.
They're asking $225,000 which IMO is too high and I've told them that. It's Ron Rosner's personal car. Rosner owns at least five different dealerships in VA. He's been selling off his personal car collection lately which I believe is an indication that his business is not doing that well. But, that's just speculation on my part. They want offers on the car and I think $200K would buy it.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 09:32 PM
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They're asking $225,000 which IMO is too high and I've told them that. It's Ron Rosner's personal car. Rosner owns at least five different dealerships in VA. He's been selling off his personal car collection lately which I believe is an indication that his business is not doing that well. But, that's just speculation on my part. They want offers on the car and I think $200K would buy it.
Heritage models will bring that price. A white/blue stripe car low mileage is in the $175K. There's a white/blue with 68 miles for $185k on FGT forum. White doesn't pull the numbers that a black or silver car does in the FGT world.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamF1Jr
First video I've seen from the Laguna Seca introduction. Watching the navigation screen, not sure what the red and green and the #4 is all about. I don't think the 4 signifies what gear he's in because he's going up and down in gears plus the number never changed in the video and I don't think red and green signify if he's on the gas or brakes. My only guess is if it is a lap timer, maybe the red and green signifies that he's ahead or behind his last lapped time. If that is the case that would be a pretty cool feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcVrVLfLbs
It's the AMG performance media like in the SLS which records lap times and a sector times which if done right would be great to have for track days. Also real time lateral acceleraton and some other features that are improtant to playstation users.
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by TeamF1Jr
First video I've seen from the Laguna Seca introduction. Watching the navigation screen, not sure what the red and green and the #4 is all about. I don't think the 4 signifies what gear he's in because he's going up and down in gears plus the number never changed in the video and I don't think red and green signify if he's on the gas or brakes. My only guess is if it is a lap timer, maybe the red and green signifies that he's ahead or behind his last lapped time. If that is the case that would be a pretty cool feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMcVrVLfLbs
That .... and a few other features

http://youtu.be/btmpfArUfiY
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 02:44 AM
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I think its a little unrealistic to expect AMG and mercedes to make no progress in 5 years , thats a lot of time my friend ( Look at Ferrari , Porsche et all . Surely Mercedes and AMG are not the dunces of the car community ) .
I love my CLK Black but its not just the aero mate .
Well said!! The CLK-BS stands as a sharp evolution of a great body style that will always turn heads and please its owner every time he sees it, the SL-BS an OTT statement, and at some point, the SLS-BS in a league of its own. The C-BS looks like it belongs at the top of the cars in its range today, and with a few gripes about what the CLK-BS did not have etc, there is way more in the C-BS that more than blows away what people gripped about wanting. Amazing!
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