would you buy a "Hyper-miler" BS
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Was this the white one that was at the AMG road Atlanta meet? Do you know what dealership it's at now? Curious and interested...
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'96 VW Harlequin #25 of #264, '09 VW CC (bagged), 964 C2, and hopefully a CLK63 Black Series
ya not sure i have come across your old car yet?
ya ill be financing this car. I'm just a pretend baller for now. haha
ya ill be financing this car. I'm just a pretend baller for now. haha
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If you are financing, please consider my Black. I am the second owner. I have the car on consignment at PlanetAuto in Charlotte and they offer 100% financing/zero down. Service just completed including new tires. I had the calipers powder coated red and the wheels titanium. My car is listed for $984 per month. Only 27K miles. Thanks for looking. Good luck!
http://www.planetautoimports.com/web...olina/8815821/
http://www.planetautoimports.com/web...olina/8815821/
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If you are financing, please consider my Black. I am the second owner. I have the car on consignment at PlanetAuto in Charlotte and they offer 100% financing/zero down. Service just completed including new tires. I had the calipers powder coated red and the wheels titanium. My car is listed for $984 per month. Only 27K miles. Thanks for looking. Good luck!
http://www.planetautoimports.com/web...olina/8815821/
http://www.planetautoimports.com/web...olina/8815821/
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The owner of Planet Auto, Jeff Tomascak, also buys cars for his customers. Thats probably why you think Planet bought the car on the Carfax. They bought it for me. I have been buying from him for years. He secured this Black Series for me in December of 2012. It was a perfect one owner car from California. I still own the car now, and I am not involved with Nascar. Perhaps the salesperson confused it with another Black Series they are selling. You never know what the regular sales persons say.. I would be happy to answer any questions about the car, as it is an excellent example and also just serviced. Thanks for looking. Dave
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The owner of Planet Auto, Jeff Tomascak, also buys cars for his customers. Thats probably why you think Planet bought the car on the Carfax. They bought it for me. I have been buying from him for years. He secured this Black Series for me in December of 2012. It was a perfect one owner car from California. I still own the car now, and I am not involved with Nascar. Perhaps the salesperson confused it with another Black Series they are selling. You never know what the regular sales persons say.. I would be happy to answer any questions about the car, as it is an excellent example and also just serviced. Thanks for looking. Dave
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'94 NSX,'99 NSX Z,'12 C63 Black Series (Prior: '07 E63, '08 CLK63 Black Series,'14 E63-S & 16 C63-S)
I was looking at AutoTrader tonight, and the higher mileage Black Series (over 40,000 miles) seem to just be sitting on the market going nowhere....some have been available for around a year now. Prices in the mid $40k - $50k range and still going nowhere. While I don't care about mileage, it does scare me that you cannot seem to give these cars away with over 40,000 miles. That seems crazy for so much car.
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I think that's the story with almost every AMG though. Tons of car for the money due to the massive depreciation. The CLKBS is not immune to this despite its relative rarity. There's a very limited market for these vehicles and several downsides that I see:
- limited practicality. Could get C63 for far less $ and way more practicality and have plenty left over for mods/maintenance. Some of these CLKBS are even priced at 2012+ E63 levels. You could make the argument that the other AMGs generally aren't 'track' oriented vehicles, but unless you absolutely have to have a Mercedes to take to the track there are far better choices out there for the $.
- car is getting older and the newer AMGs keep getting better. This vehicle is hardly the peak example of their engineering and the more I read about it it seems like there were lots of compromises made. Only 2 seats but still weighs almost 4,000 lb?
- not a unique engine/drivetrain
- price is propped up in part I believe by collectors who sit on the cars but don't drive them further reducing the supply, as well as the limited initial supply of 350 units. If they had brought 3500 over instead of 350 what would the price be today? They created an artificial scarcity without differentiating the car enough from the rest of the lineup.
- Sellers also don't want to lose thousands on a car they may have put 5,000 miles on and thus are holding prices high hoping for a 'collector' type to come along and pay a premium
- Typical AMG maintenance costs
Despite the above I would think there are enough AMG enthusiasts out there to move the cars at those prices you listed.
- limited practicality. Could get C63 for far less $ and way more practicality and have plenty left over for mods/maintenance. Some of these CLKBS are even priced at 2012+ E63 levels. You could make the argument that the other AMGs generally aren't 'track' oriented vehicles, but unless you absolutely have to have a Mercedes to take to the track there are far better choices out there for the $.
- car is getting older and the newer AMGs keep getting better. This vehicle is hardly the peak example of their engineering and the more I read about it it seems like there were lots of compromises made. Only 2 seats but still weighs almost 4,000 lb?
- not a unique engine/drivetrain
- price is propped up in part I believe by collectors who sit on the cars but don't drive them further reducing the supply, as well as the limited initial supply of 350 units. If they had brought 3500 over instead of 350 what would the price be today? They created an artificial scarcity without differentiating the car enough from the rest of the lineup.
- Sellers also don't want to lose thousands on a car they may have put 5,000 miles on and thus are holding prices high hoping for a 'collector' type to come along and pay a premium
- Typical AMG maintenance costs
Despite the above I would think there are enough AMG enthusiasts out there to move the cars at those prices you listed.
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IMO, probably the biggest factor. Value proposition isn’t there when you consider alternatives in the $50K to $70K spot (e.g. 981 Cayman/Boxster, 997 GTS, Audi RS5, GTR, M3/4). So you first need to find a buyer who's aware of the story and then convince that buyer to forgo any number of performance and technological advances (mostly tech) found in a 2012 + automobile to purchase a $60,000 7 year old Mercedes. Yeah, it looks great and is a hoot to drive, but collision avoidance, voice commands, integrated iPod/Bluetooth, modern nav and lower miles would be nice. And I think that plays into the decision and thins the market. The buyer of the CLK BS is going be the more hard core enthusiast. We're out there, but obviously not in sufficient numbers.
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'12 C63BS "SlickTop", '08 CLK63BS, '16 E63S wagon, '12 CLS63, amongst other non-Merc toys
I was looking at AutoTrader tonight, and the higher mileage Black Series (over 40,000 miles) seem to just be sitting on the market going nowhere....some have been available for around a year now. Prices in the mid $40k - $50k range and still going nowhere. While I don't care about mileage, it does scare me that you cannot seem to give these cars away with over 40,000 miles. That seems crazy for so much car.
With that said, the comments from those in doubt in the sales performance on these cars in the market should really be taken with a 50/50.
