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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:01 PM
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The Parking Brake Shoes..
From what I hear, the w219 cls63 and w218 cls63 has different size of rotor, but they all have the same size of internal drum diameter of 180mm. Even the RB website mention that it is interchangable. Can anyone verify that?
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Also,

before doing anything, have to measure the distance between caliper holes,,

09 Cls63 comes with two differ Rear spindle hole pattern,,

(75mm) & (90mm),

have to compare if your exist Rear caliper got the same measurement with 09 Cls63 caliper..!

-;ZAYED;-
What year and model of caliper is the one in green come from?
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by harryTAM
From what I hear, the w219 cls63 and w218 cls63 has different size of rotor, but they all have the same size of internal drum diameter of 180mm. Even the RB website mention that it is interchangable. Can anyone verify that?
thats what I thought also 🤷🏽*♂️
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by djrabbi
I got 2009 W219 ones already but I know I have to get rotors but what hand brake shoes?
Since you've already got the caliper, could you do a measurement and post it with the part number to help the rest of the member to get it clear?
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:15 PM
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Yeah sure W219 & W218 uses the same drum dia., which is (180x25),,

but can't assure the fitment of parking shoes, due to differ shape of the parking shoes & shoes mounted base (in dust shield)..!

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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k

Yeah sure W219 & W218 uses the same drum dia., which is (180x25),,

but can't assure the fitment of parking shoes, due to differ shape of the parking shoes & shoes mounted base (in dust shield)..!

-;ZAYED;-
I am sure the size of the drum is 180mm. I just look up the drawing from Brembo and ATE. However, I am not sure whether they have a different mounting position of the back plate or not.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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Yeah, that's why prefer to get "W219" shoes,,

but before that, just get "W219 Cls63" Rotor & try it with "W218" shoes, it may fit,,

it's really not big deal..!
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Yeah, that's why prefer to get "W219" shoes,,

but before that, just get "W219 Cls63" Rotor & try it with "W218" shoes, it may fit,,

it's really not big deal..!
Agree. Since he said he already got the calipers, just try it as long as the caliper's mounting hole is the same. However, if he need to search for the caliper, I will also suggest to go with the w218's AMG setting because it use the same brake shoe on both car. It means that it will fit without any problem.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:52 PM
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Yeah, agree with you for sure,,

done many brake upgrade with many differ M/Y before,

just around 5 years ago, installed "W204 C63" F/R calipers & Rotors into "W219 Cls350",

and "W211 E63" F/R calipers & Rotors into "W218 Cls500", Fronts was bolt-on, but Rears not..!,

had to change the dust plate & parking shoes, everything else was fine..

-;ZAYED;-

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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 10:29 AM
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Calipers get delivered tomorrow so I can check.

I thought 2009 E63 would be same as 2009 CLS63... Is there a part number for the shoes to be replaced?
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 12:19 PM
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Before gets brake shoes, just try your exist shoes, it may fit..?!?,

if not, then you can get "W219" shoes,

"W219" brake shoes #: "230 420 03 20",

can't assure to you about hole pattern measurement bro.,

06-10 "W219 Cls63 & 07-09 "W211 E63" comes with differ Rear spindle & caliper bolt hole pattern,,

(75mm) or (90mm), depends to the M/Y spec..!

-;ZAYED;-
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 12:36 PM
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Ahh okay.

So it will bolt up but I will need to replace the shoes in order for perfect fit... makes sense.
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 12:43 PM
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So I just called dealer with 2009 E63 and 2009 CLS63 and said both are same part numbers...
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Before gets brake shoes, just try your exist shoes, it may fit..?!?,

if not, then you can get "W219" shoes,

"W219" brake shoes #: "230 420 03 20",

can't assure to you about hole pattern measurement bro.,

06-10 "W219 Cls63 & 07-09 "W211 E63" comes with differ Rear spindle & caliper bolt hole pattern,,

(75mm) or (90mm), depends to the M/Y spec..!

-;ZAYED;-
By the way, what is the bolt hole pattern on the CLS550 W218?
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by djrabbi
Ahh okay.

So it will bolt up but I will need to replace the shoes in order for perfect fit... makes sense.
Why rushing,

just keep the exist shoes and try the Rotor, if not fit, then get "W219" shoes..

-;ZAYED;-
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cm60k
Why rushing,

just keep the exist shoes and try the Rotor, if not fit, then get "W219" shoes..

-;ZAYED;-
Dealer said 2009 CLS63 and E63 have same part numbers...
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by djrabbi
So I just called dealer with 2009 E63 and 2009 CLS63 and said both are same part numbers...
Great,

maybe U.S "E63 vs Cls63" got the same spindles/brakes..

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Originally Posted by djrabbi
Dealer said 2009 CLS63 and E63 have same part numbers...
Yeah,

09 "Cls63/E63" have same brake shoes part #,,

but we talking about "W219 Cls63" fitment into "W218" spindle, isn't..!?!

-;ZAYED;-
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Great.

I will have my shop first test fit and hopefully bolts right up!
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Originally Posted by harryTAM
By the way, what is the bolt hole pattern on the CLS550 W218?
Fronts or Rears..?

-;ZAYED;-
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Old Jun 26, 2018 | 04:21 PM
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Fronts or Rears..?

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If you have the info for both will be great.
Thanks in advance.
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Sure bro.,

For W218:-

*Fronts = (110mm)

*Rears = (75mm)

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And for "U.S & Aus" version:-

*Fronts = (110mm)

*Rears = (90mm), code "F0409"..

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Originally Posted by cm60k
Yeah,

09 "Cls63/E63" have same brake shoes part #,,

but we talking about "W219 Cls63" fitment into "W218" spindle, isn't..!?!

-;ZAYED;-
Right but you said and Racing brake said 09+ E63 will bolt up perfectly to W218 in earlier posts?
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Yeah sure, in case if your "W218" Rear caliper got the same bolt pattern with "W219" caliper,,

as told;-

06-10 "W219 Cls63 & 07-09 "W211 E63" comes with two options of Rear spindle & caliper bolt hole pattern,,

(75mm) or (90mm)..!

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