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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 05:07 PM
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4 door AMG GT could handle that torque with AWD but doubtful RWD in GT BS could.
Doesn’t it come with a TC transmission though?

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Old Mar 9, 2018 | 06:20 PM
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I really hope the chassis comes with a hybrid setup but I probably should not hold my breath if it's going to be lighter than the current car.
yeah It seems like weight is a priority on this car
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Old Mar 10, 2018 | 02:29 AM
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Doesn’t it come with a TC transmission though?

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Not sure. 627 ft lbs seems like a handful for the existing DCT and RWD setup. I agree with you, I’m sure it can be done but at what cost?
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Old Mar 10, 2018 | 08:57 AM
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2020 to 2021 seems right.. Black series is usually a send-off for a generation..
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 07:27 PM
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So guys, don't know how helpful this information is, but I went to my dealer and placed a deposit on the black series GT. From what everyone said on the forum, plus what I was told in person, it seems that the GT Black Series will be announced in 2020, and probably coming out as a 2021 and as a sendoff for the GT. If i was anyone else who wants one, talk to your regular dealer which you have a relationship with. My dealer is only taking a deposit on 2 and they believe they'll only get 1. The good thing is I'm the only one who put a deposit down so far at my dealer

Also my dealer did get the SLS Black Series a few years ago, so I do think they'll get me a GT Black Series. From y understanding, MSRP will be around $200k. Not sure on the rest though.
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 08:03 PM
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My contacts have said they have no clue about MSRP, but will be north of 200K. It is coming and they are going to wait till the last minute so the benchmarks are in line.
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 08:07 PM
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My contacts have said they have no clue about MSRP, but will be north of 200K. It is coming and they are going to wait till the last minute so the benchmarks are in line.
Yea my dealer isn't sure on stock, but they are just taking the deposits in the form of who puts it down first. Plus they also required that the customers who apply for the car, have bought a few cars from them in the past. At least thats what my SA told me.
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 09:45 PM
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A GTR with options costs 200K. I think it will be closer to 300K loaded. Especially looking back historically at Black Series pricing.
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Old Mar 26, 2018 | 09:50 PM
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I also have my dealer promising me first right of refusal on any GTR BS they get in... but didnt have to put a deposit down... can't wait to see what it looks like!
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 12:57 PM
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Does it really matter how much more power it comes with if ya can't drive it without the TC on in the real world.
More useable power will need AWD. I know my car with a tune and Cup2 tires wants to kill me if I turn the TC off in the canyons...sad
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 05:25 PM
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Does it really matter how much more power it comes with if ya can't drive it without the TC on in the real world.
More useable power will need AWD. I know my car with a tune and Cup2 tires wants to kill me if I turn the TC off in the canyons...sad
GTR lays down 625bhp just fine. I’m sure the car can take more and stay RWD.
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Old Mar 28, 2018 | 08:33 PM
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GTR lays down 625bhp just fine. I’m sure the car can take more and stay RWD.
agreed. Look at Mac 720s.
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AMG 17GT


agreed. Look at Mac 720s.
Or the P1.. or ANY Ferrari... AWD isnt always needed..
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Old Mar 29, 2018 | 11:05 AM
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Mid front lol. As was said, GTR lays down power just fine. Sure there are tweaks that will add grip with another 50hp.
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 11:55 AM
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So do you guys think with the confirmation of the clubsport option to the GTR, that possibly the BS could be AWD? Which would of course make if an amazing all around car. Acceleration in the mid 2’s and still a track beast. The only reason I pose the questions is from what it appears the clubsport is going for it would seem very redundant if the BS was RWD.
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 11:59 AM
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So do you guys think with the confirmation of the clubsport option to the GTR, that possibly the BS could be AWD? Which would of course make if an amazing all around car. Acceleration in the mid 2’s and still a track beast. The only reason I pose the questions is from what it appears the clubsport is going for it would seem very redundant if the BS was RWD.
honestly dont think the US will get a clubsport.. BS i would say will be 99% a rwd.. RWD wont be redundant (see 911 GT3 vs GT3RS vs GT2 vs GT2RS)
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 12:09 PM
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honestly dont think the US will get a clubsport.. BS i would say will be 99% a rwd.. RWD wont be redundant (see 911 GT3 vs GT3RS vs GT2 vs GT2RS)
i see your point but completely different power sources and power amounts. NA vs TT. 500ish hp vs 700 big diff. Clubsport we’re likely talking same aero like increase and weight decreases but also likely same power source and similar power. (What 577 vs 605 or so?) seems kinda redundant to me.
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TtimeAMG


i see your point but completely different power sources and power amounts. NA vs TT. 500ish hp vs 700 big diff. Clubsport we’re likely talking same aero like increase and weight decreases but also likely same power source and similar power. (What 577 vs 605 or so?) seems kinda redundant to me.
I think the BS would have a bit more power? doesnt have to have a ton if its mostly weight savings, aero and suspension.. think Viper vs Viper ACR... same power, much faster

Your current car has 650hp and rwd
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So do you guys think with the confirmation of the clubsport option to the GTR, that possibly the BS could be AWD? Which would of course make if an amazing all around car. Acceleration in the mid 2’s and still a track beast. The only reason I pose the questions is from what it appears the clubsport is going for it would seem very redundant if the BS was RWD.
I still think there’s a chance Black gets front drive electric tech from project one. So yeah AWD.

Logic says weight savings on this car, but my guess is that will be club-sport role.
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Old Mar 31, 2018 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
I think the BS would have a bit more power? doesnt have to have a ton if its mostly weight savings, aero and suspension.. think Viper vs Viper ACR... same power, much faster

Your current car has 650hp and rwd
That's a good point with the viper comparison. haha ya putting down 650 hp and 650 torque is a serious struggle some days, specially living in the Seattle climate!!
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Originally Posted by TtimeAMG
That's a good point with the viper comparison. haha ya putting down 650 hp and 650 torque is a serious struggle some days, specially living in the Seattle climate!!
Haha..I like C7 vettes..

now I know why you keep asking about all wheel drive

How about a S63 coupe? or a E63? or the new GT sedan? all wheel and amazing cars
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I still think there’s a chance Black gets front drive electric tech from project one. So yeah AWD.

Logic says weight savings on this car, but my guess is that will be club-sport role.
I feel the club-sport would fill that all out track weapon as well. I hadn't thought much about them doing electric assist, do they have the room for that though?
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Originally Posted by susman@eurogermantown.com
Haha..I like C7 vettes..

now I know why you keep asking about all wheel drive

How about a S63 coupe? or a E63? or the new GT sedan? all wheel and amazing cars
I’m more of a coupe guy, plus I like to do 3-5 track days and 2-4 drag days a year and those are some big heavy vehicles. I would like to see a C63 BS w/ AWD, I’d be very intrigued with an E63 coupe as well. The S is just heavier, slower and more expensive then the GT!! Obviously a GT BS would be a lot more but I could pony up for a AWD 630ish GT!!
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