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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:02 PM
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That's roughly the price dealers are paying for them. Consider that wholesale and probably about what you could expect in trade for a 2018.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:32 PM
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That's roughly the price dealers are paying for them. Consider that wholesale and probably about what you could expect in trade for a 2018.
I don't know - we must be looking at something different.

I have a friend who is dying to get his hands on well priced no stories cars and it looks like only one passed through the auction from his perspective in that range - and there is a single car retailing at 125K out in Jersey by an independent. Id want to know a lot more about it - its WAY. underpriced. Outside of that, all the other cars around it (that I can see) are asking in the high 130s to mid 140s. There is typically about $10K in margin in this kind of car in the used space.

Manheim hasn't been a great source for cars over the last few months and especially during Covid, - when they finally opened back up the wholesale bids were exceeding the retail market. In some cases that is still holding true - cant really see how this is sustainable. And, with supply currently exceeding demand with mfg backlog i think there is still a couple of more months with 'wonky' pricing. That said, it seems to be more of a sellers market than a buyers for quality cars.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:48 PM
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There is a pristine 2018 GTR for sale at Merit Partners in Atlanta that can be purchased for low $130’s. Covered in $6K worth of Xpel stealth/Ultimate also. Mileage less than 6,000 miles. New SC2s.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:54 PM
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I don't know what to tell you. It is a wacky time in the market for some cars in a good way and others in a bad way. All I can tell you is what I was sent.


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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 02:55 PM
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There is a pristine 2018 GTR for sale at Merit Partners in Atlanta that can be purchased for low $130’s. Covered in $6K worth of Xpel stealth/Ultimate also. Mileage less than 6,000 miles. New SC2s.
Merit are good people.
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 03:03 PM
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There is a pristine 2018 GTR for sale at Merit Partners in Atlanta that can be purchased for low $130’s. Covered in $6K worth of Xpel stealth/Ultimate also. Mileage less than 6,000 miles. New SC2s.
134,500 on their website, and then 133,000 OBO on Ebay. Looks great!
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG GTR Pro
I don't know what to tell you. It is a wacky time in the market for some cars in a good way and others in a bad way. All I can tell you is what I was sent.

Those are really interesting - cant see anything in a search for a GTR with those high miles. Any VIN information? Be interesting to see how these auction prices translate to asking price - would be easy to find out with the VINs.
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 02:47 AM
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With the GTR prices falling the GTS now suddenly seems quite expensive 😅🤪
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 12:30 PM
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With the GTR prices falling the GTS now suddenly seems quite expensive 😅🤪
That's probably why they dropped the S this year. Just the GT, GTC and GTR.
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 12:43 PM
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Late into the thread but I find the prices quite stable. I was able to find (slightly) better deals on GTR's 6 months ago, including locally.
Assuming the prices will move more once bad weather sets in and some of these go into storage...
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AMG GTR Pro
I don't know what to tell you. It is a wacky time in the market for some cars in a good way and others in a bad way. All I can tell you is what I was sent.

Are you able to share more details than this? VIN or vehicle history - for example, someone on the forum just bought a GTR with damage....be nice to see beyond the numbers to get a real account of the auctions and what's going on.
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 12:17 PM
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Unfortunately not, that was all that was sent to me.
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by AMG GTR Pro
Unfortunately not, that was all that was sent to me.
Gonna take a guess here - was the sender looking to buy your GTR?

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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 05:19 PM
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That's probably why they dropped the S this year. Just the GT, GTC and GTR.
Yes! GT is moved now to where GTS used to be with almost all the GTC features available as an option except body panels, engine power and some cosmetics.
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 06:27 PM
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Yes! GT is moved now to where GTS used to be with almost all the GTC features available as an option except body panels, engine power and some cosmetics.
The engine power comes from different turbos and compression though....not just factory tune characteristics.
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 07:38 PM
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The engine power comes from different turbos and compression though....not just factory tune characteristics.

But honestly, does it even matter? Especially for how few buyers will ever know this ahead of time, or care to pay the 20k euros for it, when there is a nearly identical option for much less?
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 08:28 PM
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But honestly, does it even matter? Especially for how few buyers will ever know this ahead of time, or care to pay the 20k euros for it, when there is a nearly identical option for much less?
its a good point. Id love to victory lap about a smart choice in getting a C. In complete honestly though when I bought the C Roadster I didnt actually know what I was getting.

I wanted the wider hips and knew about the steer assist and I was familiar with it from my 911 TTS. The car I found had CCBs and knew it was a bit of an oddity with what was out there. Once I found out its largely the GTR I was very happy...In fact, I didn't even know the C stood for Competition until someone posted it recently. MB did a terrible job explaining what the C actually is. Even car people that I respect thought that the C stood for Convertible! I knew that wasn't the case but until that post I didn't know what it was.
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I knew that wasn't the case but until that post I didn't know what it was.
It was me!
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Originally Posted by Skilly
I don't know - we must be looking at something different.

I have a friend who is dying to get his hands on well priced no stories cars and it looks like only one passed through the auction from his perspective in that range - and there is a single car retailing at 125K out in Jersey by an independent. Id want to know a lot more about it - its WAY. underpriced. Outside of that, all the other cars around it (that I can see) are asking in the high 130s to mid 140s. There is typically about $10K in margin in this kind of car in the used space.

Manheim hasn't been a great source for cars over the last few months and especially during Covid, - when they finally opened back up the wholesale bids were exceeding the retail market. In some cases that is still holding true - cant really see how this is sustainable. And, with supply currently exceeding demand with mfg backlog i think there is still a couple of more months with 'wonky' pricing. That said, it seems to be more of a sellers market than a buyers for quality cars.
on the 125 car in jersey, I know the owner of the dealers nephew who is one of my best friends.

they have listed two gtrs on and off same mikes same price months apart
off and on market
i asked my buddy what are they doing, he said it’s just what they do but don’t even have the cars there

plus, the more expensive one has more miles and less options , don’t believe everything you see. I can screenshot my text message asking if anyone doubts lol

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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 02:37 PM
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Late into the thread but I find the prices quite stable. I was able to find (slightly) better deals on GTR's 6 months ago, including locally.
Assuming the prices will move more once bad weather sets in and some of these go into storage...
I feel like prices on all high end cars have gone up since ~May/2 months into Corona. Watch market has gone crazy as well.
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 02:49 PM
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Gonna take a guess here - was the sender looking to buy your GTR?
No, I sold my GTR a long time ago before I bought my GTR Pro. I had asked a friend with access to Manheim to pull me some numbers on 18's as another friend was looking for one.
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 03:23 PM
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I feel like prices on all high end cars have gone up since ~May/2 months into Corona. Watch market has gone crazy as well.
100% spot on....although, with the watch market there are still some good deals out there.

The watch market perplexes me. I watch the Rolex market and the sub continues to be out of control - a 3 year old Hulk is $20K in the used market...I remember them being discounted at the Rolex store because they didn't move when the they first released them. Comparatively the DJ 41 with a better movement (that is in the new Subs) goes in the pre-owned market for less than retail. And virtually the same watch as the sub with a Tudor branding goes for 1/3 of the price.

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Tbh this isn't a car you get if you cant afford it to be depreciated by 40% within 3 at the very least - if you care a lot about depreciation then go with a Porsche GT car. I got my brand new 2018 GTC Roadster for $130k with an MSRP of $180k last summer. There simply isn't the demand that the GT Porsches have for these cars.
What do you mean you got it brand new for 130? You mean used but like new?
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What do you mean you got it brand new for 130? You mean used but like new?
I don't think so. I also got a similar discount for a brand new 2019 GTC, and I bought it in 2019.

The AMG GT values are going to go up guys! Mark my words, and let's talk in 5 years!

The 992 911 is a bore - I couldn't wait to get out of the one I test drove. The next gen AMG GT will be platform shared and electric...

In 5 years, everyone will lament the first gen GT as a "classic", the last of the breed. And people on the forums will be regretting selling theirs for way below current values.
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I don't think so. I also got a similar discount for a brand new 2019 GTC, and I bought it in 2019.

The AMG GT values are going to go up guys! Mark my words, and let's talk in 5 years!

The 992 911 is a bore - I couldn't wait to get out of the one I test drove. The next gen AMG GT will be platform shared and electric...

In 5 years, everyone will lament the first gen GT as a "classic", the last of the breed. And people on the forums will be regretting selling theirs for way below current values.
THIS!!...SLS did the same thing...

You're right about Porsche. The 911 just doesn't give you the feels like the GT cars do.
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