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FWIW, those wraps and adjustments seem pretty minor and likely style choices. The wheels *might* be curbed, but wrapping wouldn't hide that well - they would usually repair and then paint the wheels to hide repaired damage. To your point, most dealerships that know what they have, would take the time and spend a few hundred bucks to remove all of those distractions. To give some assurances on the wheels I just wrapped mine too - I have the same set of wheels and wasnt a fan of the large aluminum lip.
I like the way you wrapped your wheels. Looks fantastic on the GTC with your wing. Well done!
But yes, I agree with you. I might have been too harsh on them, but I was really disappointed with talking with them and their refusal to admit those visual touches were aftermarket.
The new limited-edition top-of-the-range model AMG GT R PRO is characterised by yet further improved driving dynamics, in particular on the racetrack. The experience from the AMG GT3 and AMG GT4 racing cars entered into the development. The measures from motorsport can be clustered in four areas: suspension, lightweight construction, aerodynamics and looks.
Suspension: the optimal set-up.
The new AMG coil-over suspension offers even more choices for tailoring the set-up to the particular circuit. As in professional motorsport, the driver is not only able to set the spring preload length mechanically, but can now also adjust the compression and rebound of the dampers. This is done quickly and precisely without tools via a click system with an integral adjustment dial on the damper. The compression rate is adjusted separately for high-speed and low-speed movements. This means that the settings can be dialled-in for slow and fast compression movements as is common practice in motorsport. This allows influencing the body dive and roll as well as the traction of the AMG GT R PRO even more selectively.
The front axle is fitted with an adjustable torsion bar made of lightweight carbon fibre. Its counterpart at the rear is made of steel, is likewise adjustable and also saves weight due to its hollow tube design. The AMG GT R is already fitted with Uniball spherical bearings at the lower wishbones of the rear axle. The AMG GT R PRO now gets these bearings also for the upper wishbones. They are significantly more wear-resistant than conventional wishbone bearings and due to their design have no play, which means toe-in and camber do not change even under high loads.
As a result, the AMG GT R PRO can be driven with even more precision. The carbon-fibre shear panel in the underbody of the rear end also contributes to the high handling precision. This lightweight and rigid element stiffens the rear-end structure and as a result adds even more stability to the body shell. The electronically controlled dynamic engine and transmission mounts were also retuned to further increase the agility and deliver high-precision response and clear feedback.
Bolted steel roll cage.
The standard delivery scope of the AMG GT R PRO also includes the Track Package (not for USA, Canada and China). It comprises a roll-over protection system, enclosed 4-point safety harnesses for driver and front passenger, and a 2-kg fire extinguisher (both scopes exclusively for use on the racetrack). The bolted steel roll cage of the roll-over protection system consists of a main roll bar, a brace for mounting the harnesses, two rear braces as well as a diagonal X-brace in the rear end. The system further increases the already excellent vehicle rigidity and thus also has a positive influence on the vehicle’s driving dynamics. In the USA, Canada and China, the AMG GT R PRO is fitted with matte carbon-fibre trim elements and the boot brace in place of the Track Package.
Carbon parts and new forged wheels.
In addition to a host of carbon-fibre components, weight is saved by the standard-fit ceramic high-performance compound braking system exclusively with black painted brake callipers as well as by the AMG bucket seats made of clear-coated carbon fibre (not for USA, Canada and China). In the USA, Canada and China, the AMG GT R PRO is equipped with AMG Performance seats as standard. The lightweight AMG Performance 5-double-spoke forged wheels are exclusively painted titanium grey and feature a rim flange with high-sheen finish.
Redesigned front apron with additional flics.
The aerodynamic fine-tuning increases the overall performance of the AMG GT R PRO as well. The redesigned front apron was fitted with two flics at the sides made of clear-coated carbon fibre. The lower flics transition virtually seamlessly into the front splitter, which was extended further forward and is held by small metal braces – they stabilise the front splitter at higher speeds. In addition, they are another visual homage to the role models from motorsport.
The louvres (air slots) in the front wings effectively vent the wheel arches and consequently contribute to reducing front-axle lift. At the rear, a clear-coated carbon-fibre aero element at the wheel arch on either side rises up vertically almost to the level of the tail lamps. The interplay of all these measures significantly reduces front-axle lift without negatively impacting the aerodynamic conditions at the rear axle.
Motor racing looks.
The AMG GT R PRO does not only drive like a racing car, it also looks the part. The standard-fit Carbon Package I with front splitter, fins in the wings, trim strips in the side sills and a diffuser with high-quality clear-coated carbon-fibre finish emphasises the proximity to motorsport, as does the redesigned carbon-fibre roof with lowered centre.
Impressively demonstrated its performance potential.
Even before the world premiere, the new AMG GT R PRO has impressively demonstrated its performance potential on the racetrack: In early November, AMG brand ambassador and AMG GT3 racing driver Maro Engel completed a circuit of the Nürburgring North Loop in exactly 7.04.632 minutes driving a still disguised AMG GT R PRO. This considerably bettered the previous time for the AMG GT R – and at an autumnal ambient temperature of 12 degrees, it demonstrated the great potential of the current AMG flagship model.
^^^so there you go. So basically a few more bolts, carbon wings and flaps, and a bunch of other stuff you can’t get in the US anyway. So basically a GTR with some stickers, wings, flaps and a few more bolts and braces that you can get yourself....
^^^so there you go. So basically a few more bolts, carbon wings and flaps, and a bunch of other stuff you can’t get in the US anyway. So basically a GTR with some stickers, wings, flaps and a few more bolts and braces that you can get yourself....
You've made this similar statement in the past too and you were woefully wrong then as well. You sure do have a hard on to down play the PRO with no actual seat time in one nor any actual back-to-back comparison with a regular GTR. The only items not available in N/A are the seats and roll bar, hardly "a bunch of other stuff". This thread has clearly demonstrated that there is much going on with the PRO over the GTR and yet you sum it up to a glorified sticker package. Be damned all those professional reviews!!!
You've made this similar statement in the past too and you were woefully wrong then as well. You sure do have a hard on to down play the PRO with no actual seat time in one nor any actual back-to-back comparison with a regular GTR. The only items not available in N/A are the seats and roll bar, hardly "a bunch of other stuff". This thread has clearly demonstrated that there is much going on with the PRO over the GTR and yet you sum it up to a glorified sticker package. Be damned all those professional reviews!!!
must be butt hurt because he doesn't own one. Oh well every forum has haters and trolls. Cheers.
must be butt hurt because he doesn't own one. Oh well every forum has haters and trolls. Cheers.
Originally Posted by canucklehead
You've made this similar statement in the past too and you were woefully wrong then as well. You sure do have a hard on to down play the PRO with no actual seat time in one nor any actual back-to-back comparison with a regular GTR. The only items not available in N/A are the seats and roll bar, hardly "a bunch of other stuff". This thread has clearly demonstrated that there is much going on with the PRO over the GTR and yet you sum it up to a glorified sticker package. Be damned all those professional reviews!!!
No reason to get defensive just to justify your purchase. Enjoy the car, it's not like he kicked your family dog.
You've made this similar statement in the past too and you were woefully wrong then as well. You sure do have a hard on to down play the PRO with no actual seat time in one nor any actual back-to-back comparison with a regular GTR. The only items not available in N/A are the seats and roll bar, hardly "a bunch of other stuff". This thread has clearly demonstrated that there is much going on with the PRO over the GTR and yet you sum it up to a glorified sticker package. Be damned all those professional reviews!!!
It is a known marketing strategy that car companies (ie MB with the c63 507) will have cosmetic enhancements and add-ons to an already existing model to "enhance" the car to get rid of final parts stock or to depelete a model run and make a big final "hurrah". I think you are taking this too personally, perhaps because you own a PRO model. I get it and congrats on having one. Not jealous. I promise you that. Personally I love the GTR and PRO cars. Just doing a common sense analysis.
But if you think about it, Benz did not do one modification to the poweroutput of the car. This goes to show that not only did it not make sense to (export, expense, etc) do this, but that they IN FACT just wanted to make marketing excitement to increase profits and "exclusiveness" of the PRO model. All they did was add some cosmetic applications, suspension and rigidity applications. The applications such as cage bar, seats definitely would be enhancements if only the US was getting them. Unfortunately we in the US are not getting the roll cage and track seats, which almost in many ways defetes the "track focused car" purpose in some ways. Kind of silly in a way. The chassis stiffeners could be applied after the fact to a GTR for example. The wheels are the same. The cermic brakes are the same. The interior and tech is the same. The body is the same. The giant front lip may add some downforce stability to again, the EXPERIENCED track driver racing for 1/10 seconds in lap times.
The suspension modifications and the carbon fiber additions would really only have a noticable impact when you also take into consideration the DRIVER ON A RACE COURSE. We all know that laptimes are GREATLY impacted by the driver alone. The driver alone can make or break the image of a car based on 1/10 of seconds, where a tighter suspension or carbon winglets wouldn't of done much of anything. These upgrades to the car are greatly taken advantage of and can have laptime effects when taken the driver of the car into consideration. That's why I am a bit hesistant to accept that all these addtions to the GTR to make it a PRO are really that big of a deal to the inexperienced track driver.
I have a PRO here at my local dealer just sitting. IN FACT, I was looking the car over and was noticing so many flaws in the body gaps, lines, and details in the car that my GTR doesn't have. Gaps that were uneven and lines that didnt match up and flaws in the paint work which makes me wonder if they were in a rush to just get these out.
If you can't accept that it was MAINLY a marketing gimmick, then you aren't seeing beyond the go-fast stickers. More power to those getting or have GTR pros. You still have a GTR which is super cool. But to think that it is a track winning anomaly, I'm not too certain. Still a great car though...
It is a known marketing strategy that car companies (ie MB with the c63 507) will have cosmetic enhancements and add-ons to an already existing model to "enhance" the car to get rid of final parts stock or to depelete a model run and make a big final "hurrah". I think you are taking this too personally, perhaps because you own a PRO model. I get it and congrats on having one. Not jealous. I promise you that. Personally I love the GTR and PRO cars. Just doing a common sense analysis.
But if you think about it, Benz did not do one modification to the poweroutput of the car. This goes to show that not only did it not make sense to (export, expense, etc) do this, but that they IN FACT just wanted to make marketing excitement to increase profits and "exclusiveness" of the PRO model. All they did was add some cosmetic applications, suspension and rigidity applications. The applications such as cage bar, seats definitely would be enhancements if only the US was getting them. Unfortunately we in the US are not getting the roll cage and track seats, which almost in many ways defetes the "track focused car" purpose in some ways. Kind of silly in a way. The chassis stiffeners could be applied after the fact to a GTR for example. The wheels are the same. The cermic brakes are the same. The interior and tech is the same. The body is the same. The giant front lip may add some downforce stability to again, the EXPERIENCED track driver racing for 1/10 seconds in lap times.
The suspension modifications and the carbon fiber additions would really only have a noticable impact when you also take into consideration the DRIVER ON A RACE COURSE. We all know that laptimes are GREATLY impacted by the driver alone. The driver alone can make or break the image of a car based on 1/10 of seconds, where a tighter suspension or carbon winglets wouldn't of done much of anything. These upgrades to the car are greatly taken advantage of and can have laptime effects when taken the driver of the car into consideration. That's why I am a bit hesistant to accept that all these addtions to the GTR to make it a PRO are really that big of a deal to the inexperienced track driver.
I have a PRO here at my local dealer just sitting. IN FACT, I was looking the car over and was noticing so many flaws in the body gaps, lines, and details in the car that my GTR doesn't have. Gaps that were uneven and lines that didnt match up and flaws in the paint work which makes me wonder if they were in a rush to just get these out.
If you can't accept that it was MAINLY a marketing gimmick, then you aren't seeing beyond the go-fast stickers. More power to those getting or have GTR pros. You still have a GTR which is super cool. But to think that it is a track winning anomaly, I'm not too certain. Still a great car though...
very long winded attempted at legitimizing your negative troll, But unfortunately you fell right back to your rather juvenile comment about "marketing gimmicks" and "go-fast stickers". Oh and let's not forget about your latest insights into the dreadful build quality of the PRO. So by your measure then I guess the entire family tree of GT Coupes & Spiders are nothing more than glorified marketing gimmicks with boosted engines and bolt on go fast goodies from the parts bin. Hell MB even supplies the 4.0 Bi-Turbo engine to Aston Martin. Say it isn't so!!!!!
very long winded attempted at legitimizing your negative troll, But unfortunately you fell right back to your rather juvenile comment about "marketing gimmicks" and "go-fast stickers". Oh and let's not forget about your latest insights into the dreadful build quality of the PRO. So by your measure then I guess the entire family tree of GT Coupes & Spiders are nothing more than glorified marketing gimmicks with boosted engines and bolt on go fast goodies from the parts bin. Hell MB even supplies the 4.0 Bi-Turbo engine to Aston Martin. Say it isn't so!!!!!
Between the two of you, you're the only one making juvenile comments.
14 posts and he calls me a troll? McLovin, you just bought a used Pro like 6 days ago. Kudos. Congrats. Walk into your garage and hug it for us. I think you need it.
It is a known marketing strategy that car companies (ie MB with the c63 507) will have cosmetic enhancements and add-ons to an already existing model to "enhance" the car to get rid of final parts stock or to depelete a model run and make a big final "hurrah". I think you are taking this too personally, perhaps because you own a PRO model. I get it and congrats on having one. Not jealous. I promise you that. Personally I love the GTR and PRO cars. Just doing a common sense analysis.
But if you think about it, Benz did not do one modification to the poweroutput of the car. This goes to show that not only did it not make sense to (export, expense, etc) do this, but that they IN FACT just wanted to make marketing excitement to increase profits and "exclusiveness" of the PRO model. All they did was add some cosmetic applications, suspension and rigidity applications. The applications such as cage bar, seats definitely would be enhancements if only the US was getting them. Unfortunately we in the US are not getting the roll cage and track seats, which almost in many ways defetes the "track focused car" purpose in some ways. Kind of silly in a way. The chassis stiffeners could be applied after the fact to a GTR for example. The wheels are the same. The cermic brakes are the same. The interior and tech is the same. The body is the same. The giant front lip may add some downforce stability to again, the EXPERIENCED track driver racing for 1/10 seconds in lap times.
The suspension modifications and the carbon fiber additions would really only have a noticable impact when you also take into consideration the DRIVER ON A RACE COURSE. We all know that laptimes are GREATLY impacted by the driver alone. The driver alone can make or break the image of a car based on 1/10 of seconds, where a tighter suspension or carbon winglets wouldn't of done much of anything. These upgrades to the car are greatly taken advantage of and can have laptime effects when taken the driver of the car into consideration. That's why I am a bit hesistant to accept that all these addtions to the GTR to make it a PRO are really that big of a deal to the inexperienced track driver.
I have a PRO here at my local dealer just sitting. IN FACT, I was looking the car over and was noticing so many flaws in the body gaps, lines, and details in the car that my GTR doesn't have. Gaps that were uneven and lines that didnt match up and flaws in the paint work which makes me wonder if they were in a rush to just get these out.
If you can't accept that it was MAINLY a marketing gimmick, then you aren't seeing beyond the go-fast stickers. More power to those getting or have GTR pros. You still have a GTR which is super cool. But to think that it is a track winning anomaly, I'm not too certain. Still a great car though...
I don't own a pro but have looked at the spec between the regular and Pro versions. Its material change catering to the driver who tracks. They really aren't 'carbon bits' the likes of esthetic trim or stickers that showcase it as different due to color combinations etc. As you point out, the time differences on the Nuremberg tell you that story.
The 4" splitter, the CF exterior trim (that channels are for cooling and aero), upgraded lighter wheels to lower the unsprung weight, and of course the suspension. It's all very material to someone that intends to use the car beyond cruising to the cars&coffee or grabbing groceries.
The wheels are exactly the same as the gtr high performance, light wheel in black, they are just light gray. The brake cooling is pretty cool however....much needed...
I also was looking for a gtr pro but had no luck . Buffalo dealer only had one possible allocation and deposit was on it. Therefore I searched around and found a 2020 gtr with 580 miles in Kentucky. Gonna clean out secondary cats this winter and get forgeline ga1r rims with sport cup 2 tires, not a fan of machined lip.
Car handles great nice power. Installed rennrech exhaust module and did increase volume.
The wheels are exactly the same as the gtr high performance, light wheel in black, they are just light gray. The brake cooling is pretty cool however....much needed...
the same yes, but standard rather than an option (and of course different color). Most of the GTR's I am seeing as of late, havent been built with the lighter optioned wheels.
Exactly, there were two wheels offered....the thicker silver lip which was the high performance light weight wheel and the thinner silver lip which not a performace wheel. It seems that many of the 2018 GTRs came standard or often with the thicker silver lipped wheel (high performace light weight wheel) option....later I guess they made it more an option or I actually remember hearing in 2019 they were have stock issues and were out of the high performance wheel...but on the ordering guide you were able to choose.
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14 posts and he calls me a troll? McLovin, you just bought a used Pro like 6 days ago. Kudos. Congrats. Walk into your garage and hug it for us. I think you need it.
WOW I feel so inadequate and almost sub-human buying a "used" PRO with 900 mi. on it.. Seriously, that's what your down to now?? I could go on but see no point.
No reason to get defensive just to justify your purchase. Enjoy the car, it's not like he kicked your family dog.
How was I being defensive exactly? ZephyrAMG continues still to make very opinionated (which he is entitled to), baseless statements even after a thread full of facts that state otherwise. Crickets.
It is ok for ZephyrAMG to spout off his (canned) opinion over several threads while demonstrating his basic lack of comprehension of the PRO package as a whole, but I am being defensive!?!
ZephyrAMG then continues to offer an anecdotal account of one car he saw in a showroom, now all PROs are junk. Too funny.
The hood gap on my old 2018 GTR was bad, also the drivers side window would not properly seal and water would leak in, and there was a clicking sound that service could not fix. ALL 2018 GTRS ARE COMPLETE GARBAGE BECAUSE I SAY SO.
Ok ok ok enough of this mines better than yours crap. Let's all calm down. I wasn't saying that all PROs are all made poorly, or that PROs are crap etc etc etc...just making some points and observations, discussing like we were all chilling in a garage having beers chatting...kind of what I thought this forum was supposed to be. Everyone defends theirs and there own, all good...and as I mentioned, the entire GT line is a phenomenal car and the PROs are very cool....
Going to be out at COTA this weekend with my GTR and my buddy is bringing his Pro.We will both be running Pirelli Slicks (new) I have some GT4 aero that I will be tested but other than that it should be a pretty good idea of Standard GTR vs Pro
No McLovin, you feel inadequate for other reasons....I told you to go hug your PRO a bit. Did you listen? I guess not....
new to the forum and unfortunately there's one in every bunch just didn't take long to find him. So how long have the rest of you been putting up with his BS?
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McLovin, you just bought a used Pro like 6 days ago. Kudos. Congrats. Walk into your garage and hug it for us. I think you need it.
