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Old Dec 18, 2020 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by iLLGT2
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on my 5th lambo (brand new evo rwd) after performante, lp570, Superleggera 08 and Gallardo Se06
Not sure if you meant to quote me, as I'm not the OP, but I wasn't making that comment in relation to reliability, but in regards to time at the dealership when work/repairs are needed.
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Old Dec 20, 2020 | 02:49 PM
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It's a mechanical and electrical object...............it doesn't matter if it cost 2 bucks or 20 million anything can fail even after being tested to work as it should. The quality the manufacturer thinks of said object is usually the length of a warranty they put on it and how they generally stand behind their products.

I won't tear into a manufacturer just because you paid "x" amount. Tear into them when they don't stand behind a recurring issue in a product or design that leads to failures. Porsche IMS is a good example. Audi turbo oil screens in a otherwise awesome V8 4.0 TT that could of been relocated to easier access the part as more of a maintenance part . These are design issues that once the issues started to pop up outside of the "norm" could've been addressed in many different ways. Unfortunately, ignoring the consumer even after you continually update the failed part speaks volumes. Sad thing is the later is more or less then norm in this world.

In this situation let them fix the problem and move forward. It might be a completely flawless car for many miles to come. Even if they gave you a new car no questions asked they can't guarantee you something else might go wrong with that car 300 miles down the road.
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Orcbolg
If you are wanting something relatively inexpensive to own, in this price range, the F12 is not the car to look at imo. For anything that does need fixing/replacing, you are going to pay a very heavy premium at the dealer. @Alexfor8 Can shed some more light on this, as he has chalked up some serious mileage on his.

The majority of the GT Rs are going to be very hassle free, and for those that aren't, they should all still be under warranty.
I'd love to hear about his experience with the F12. Doesn't look like he's posted here in a couple months.
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 07:01 AM
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Okay, so sometimes the strange old guy with almost 500 cars owned can offer some useful information. All cars break! I am on #62 MB, #45 Porsche, #79 BMW not to mention all the Ferrari's, Lamborghinis, and Maserati's I have owned. I cant imagine some of you in a MG, Triumph, or GH from when I was a young pup, you would have probably sold them in less than a week. I have seen cars well over a million dollars fail (in fact the percentage is higher since there are less of them built), so price has nothing to do with it. My steering rack failed on my GTS when it was out of warranty. My dealer (it helps to know them for 30+ years) and MB stepped up for me, and took care of it. There are recourses you can take (and if the time it took to get my parts are any indication it might be well past 30 days before the parts arrive for your car), and it seems you have already decided OP that you do not what the car anymore so hopefully time will work in your favor. The pandemic is still slowing supply lies, and I suggest reading the lemon law in your state to see if there is anything about delays that may not be the manufacturers fault. Personally I would not buy a new model of any of the GT's the curve is just too big, I bought my car 2 1/2 years ago for half the 150k+ sticker price. If you truly want a trouble free car that is a great divers car, the only modern one I know of is a Miata. There is a reason the biggest profit center for dealerships is the service and parts department. I hope you resolve your issue OP, and it works out the way you want. I had both a F1 and gearshift 430 coupe, the gearshift one is on my list of I should have kept that one.
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Old Dec 21, 2020 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kumizi
I'd love to hear about his experience with the F12. Doesn't look like he's posted here in a couple months.
He's actually in your neck of the woods, and fairly active in the local scene. Check out Cars and Cocktails and you'll likely run into him. I'd be shocked if he doesn't end up being the first person to hit 100k miles in an F12.
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Old Dec 23, 2020 | 09:36 AM
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Ive just purchased 2020 Green Hell GT-R which broke down just after a week.
The rear steering module failed and i got more than 13 faults.

Asking the dealer to unwind the deal since for 203,000$ car these things shouldn't happen. The service advisor did told me that they see more of these coming lately with various issues.
I've purchased the car from Fletcher Jones in Fremont California (Authorized Mercedes Dealership).
They refused to unwind the deal.
That car depreciation curve is insane so selling it right not will be horrific. Bad feeling, MB should learn how to build better cars especially with such high price tag.
I owned several Porsche's and never had ANY issues, wanted to give a try since the car drive awesome but seems to fail short.
I had previously own GTR 2018 that failed miserably with AC compressor twice, i traded it for the new one which turned to be another shame.
They look great, i would suggest to wait and stay away for now.

MB bad quality.
It’s not a big deal! Relax and let them fix it.

I’ve had 5 Mercedes over the past ~6 years and all have been rock solid. I’ve had my GTC for ~14 months and have had no mechanical issues. Our 14 month old G550 has also been flawless.

Here are the issues I had with various Porsches recently (all within the first 2 years since new):
- coolant sensor fault
- oil leak
- rattles in dash and top
- various electrical glitches related to tail lights

And if you watch channels like YouTube’s Nick Murray, you’ll see that he had two 911s lemoned — the dealer could not fix them!

So Porsche is worse, not better.

The reality is that these are very complicated machines, and the GT is actually remarkably reliable. Look how few complaints there are here.

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Old Dec 25, 2020 | 06:22 PM
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OP: Let me share my story of my car breaking down in Vegas with essentially the same mileage when new. It was GHM GTR as well. These things happen and Fletcher Jones in Vegas was outstanding and never had another problem again.

Also, my 2019 GT3 RS was in the shop twice for almost a month with a PDK they had to eventually replace. Car had less than 150 miles on it to boot when it happened. Porsche was awesome and waived a $600 bill for some extras I had installed while it was there. They also gave me an additional two years factory warranty for my trouble for a total of 6 years/75K miles and it's transferable. So that took the sting out of it and the car has been flawless since the repair as well. These guys will take care of you. I know it's frustrating but it's best to let them do their thing for now in my opinion.

Here's the post from 1-19-2018 on my GHM GTR.

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GTR Broke Down and Wouldn't Start and Couldn't be Towed......Wow - what a story I hardly know where to begin. I was in Las Vegas (visiting) on Wednesday 1/17. I made a normal U-turn to head towards (the strip) Las Vegas Blvd. As soon as I completed the turn a warning light saying: "Electronic Rear Differential Lock Inoperative" next "Blind Spot Assist Inoperative" followed by"Malfunction See Owners Manual." I thought great - really. Next stop light, I turned the engine off and restarted it. All errors were gone. I thought okay maybe it was just a glitch or something.

Couple blocks later. I'm turning into the main valet at the Aria. As I put the car in park - all the warnings come back. Except this time it also says:" Engine Oil Level Cannot Be Measured."
Followed by the temperature light coming on indicating the car is overheating (It wasn't). I had no choice and turned the engine off. Then to my horror - it would not restart. Assumed because of the message about engine oil not being able to be measured.

If anyone here has ever been to the Aria - it is a busy place. Luckily, I was towards the front. So I hit the MBrace button and they are going to send a flatbed. I didn't want this car being yanked on to a flatbed and spoilers crunching and all of the other bad things that can happen. I had the cell phone number of the shop foreman at my dealership where I purchased it. I called and he picked up and I started to explain what was happening.

He said can you put the car in neutral and I said no. He said then you can't tow it. He also found out there is no emergency tow node for the vehicle. Also right about this time the whole car went dead like the battery was disconnected. So I hang up as he is going to check into some things on the situation. At this time the Aria valet guys brought out some go-jacks (those are jacks that lift the wheels off the ground a few inches and you can easily roll a car). The new plan was to roll the car out of the way until I could figure out what to do.

One of the jacks was missing a top bolt on the wheel and they didn't want to lift and roll the car because of liability. I then called the tow company to come out and do this - so now it was probably more like a service call. Since they are hired by Mercedes, they told me all they do is tow and this is highly irregular and they would have to call for authorization. Great! By now - I'm going on about two hours sitting there.

People were coming by constantly and taking pictures of the car and asking about it. I tried to keep a good attitude and would joke and say things like" If you have a car that runs I'll trade you." Next, I'm waiting for call backs and finally get one. Mercedes will authorize the tow truck company to do it. I call them back and they basically didn't want to do it. Made up a bunch of excuses. They just didn't want the job for whatever reason. Now I call MBrace back and they are calling around to see if a tow company wants to come out with gojacks and roll a car out of the way. They are having Zero luck. They even told me they got hung up on a few times.

Now it's over three hours in valet with the car. I decided and tipped the valet guys good enough to help me roll it out of the way. A suggestion by a supervisor was the car would be safer in the VIP area which was very shortly across the way. Luckily, someone came out and said don't. Reason is because there is a slight incline there that gets steeper fast. If the car gets away from us it could go rolling down the hill and potentially have rolled on to Las Vegas Blvd. How's that for a funny image?

I figured the missing nut on top of the wheels Shouldn't be too big of a problem. The weight of the car would hold it down and it did. We then got it up and rolled it off to the side. We had rags on the top of the tires and that's where we pushed. No hands on any painted parts. At four hours now. I'm done and want to go to my room. Thinking this will get figured out in the morning. It's very well lit and they have valet and security 24/7. They assured me they'd keep an extra watchful eye on the car.

Just as I get to my room I get a call from a technician from Fletcher Jones . He said he can come by and run some codes and jump the car. I almost told him no because I was prepared to deal with everything in the morning. So I said okay come by and text me when you get here. I get a text 30 minutes later and he says he is out front. I see his Mercedes Roadside Assistance Vehicle and I can immediately hear/tell my car us running. That certainly lifted my mood.

Battery was somehow dead and he hooked up the test and cleared the codes and the car started. Let it run for a while. There were no codes, battery was charging. Turned it on and off and it started fine. He explained there is something still wrong and we need to get it to the shop. I thought great I can at least drive it there tomorrow morning. I was certain If I didn't make a U-turn the car would be okay. I took it for a quick spin and the tech followed me for a bit then left. He offered to come down in the AM and follow me up to Fletcher Jones.

I didn't think that would be necessary as long as the car started. It started the next morning and I took it to Fletcher Jones. The technician comes out and I tell him the story and he drives the car back to start on it and said he'll know something in a few hours. By the way I found out the tech is a guy named Doug Wolf who is the: "Mercedes-Benz Global Tech Masters gold medalist" - and the team leader at Fletcher Jones MB. That's right the top AMG mechanic in the entire world. So that made me feel really good.

I hung out in the lounge for an hour and he and the service adviser came out and explained what he'd found so far. Said it should be done and fixed at the end of the day. I was really surprised. My biggest fear was a blown computer/module exclusive to this car and it would take weeks or months to get one at least. After that they offered me a loaner car or a ride back to the hotel. I opted for the ride back. A few short hour later they call me and say the car is done and send someone to get me. They even filled the car with gas for me.

Fletcher Jones was incredible and awesome in every way possible to help me. They really cared and it showed. Can't thank or praise them enough. Total rock-stars. Below, I've included the text from the tech (Doug Wolf) that was on my invoice for you to see. I know this was long but I wanted to tell this story. Apologize for any grammar. But I'm not writing this for an essay contest. Basically, this all came down to one chafed wire - lol.

From My Mercedes Invoice:
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