Yeah but Scott, burden shifts to factory then to prove that part was “”non-conforming”. AND “ caused” the defective condition.

Most top tuners stay within safety parameters. The BS Benz plays with its GT and GTS “tunes” would be a perfect defense.

 

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Dude, we will always find something to hate😂😂🤣

 

Yea but both Scott and you know that MB will take their time reviewing things. Meanwhile your car is tied up far longer than it should be.

I have always maintained that the ECU and Turbo upgrades are death to the factory warranty. As I mentioned earlier the dealer may want to cover the expense butnot the factory.

You guys are the experts though.

(Scott I hope your new ride is giving you lots of pleasure)

Happy Holidays

Jerry

 

Exactly, hence the burden really lies with the consumer not with Mercedes. MB would deny the claim, return the car and then it's all uphill for the consumer. Ugh, who needs that.

 

This! Plus, even with a relationship between a failure and and an aftermarket part, it still doesn't 'void the warranty'. Rather, they typically flag the car for added hassle factor with components that might be affected.

WIth a good relationship with your dealership, you have to be pretty blatant with your mods to earn a flag on the car...for example, a tune can be overlooked; however, a tune, downpipes,upgraded turbos etc would very likely get flagged. All that said, if your command unit goes bad, they won't be able to deny a replacement under a warranty claim.

 

This.

 

cept that isn’t the way the Act is written or how it’s supposed to be carried out. I modify every single car that I have owned and have never been denied a warranty claim. It’s the dealership that proves the connection between your failure and the warranty.

to each their own in terms of keeping them stock or otherwise, but these protections do work. If they weren’t there a dealership could deny warranty simply because you didn’t service the car with them. In fact I think that’s what it was originally to protect us from - a monopoly.

 

Great input but the OP is in the Arab Emirates. MBUSA warranty or US laws are completely irrelevant, just like US pricing.
GTS models started as 2015 models outside the US.

Personally I'd rather spend the extra money on a newer car than Brabus mods. Although I do like the wing

 

No question the burden shifts, but Daimler-Benz and its US subsidiary has the time, money and know-how (and can provide the experts) to prove its case in the event of a catastrophic (which means expensive) failure. To fend off the manufacturer's expert the customer would have to bring in his own. He might win, but it would be a long process and a Lemon Law attorney might not want to take such an iffy case on contingency. (In most US states if the consumer wins a Lemon Law case s/he has a right to attorney's fees as well. That's how a lot of Lemon Law attorneys make a living. But they're going to pick the low hanging fruit, not a case where there have been mods and a battle of the experts is on tap.)

About 18 months into my ownership of my 2018 coupe the car was reprogrammed per the factory. I was told that the reprogramming was done to all GTs of that vintage and earlier to "remember" the settings it had been given and that if the tune was changed it would show up following the reprogramming. (I posted it here at the time.) I don't know if that's accurate, but if it is perhaps Daimler Benz was trying to find some way to "catch" tuning that damaged the drive train. That would make the factory's "burden of proof" a bit easier in the event of a catastrophic failure.

So I stand by my comment that you were oversimplifying the law, in this case the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

 

I have also never been denied warranty on any of my cars (though some are so modified that I never brought them to a dealer again). Today the word mechanic has been replaced by the word tech. These techs plug the car into the systems they have and the system tells them what is wrong. The old days of diagnosing a problem by sight, sound, and feel are for the most part gone. If they plug the car in and they see something strange, I've seen dealers that will just stop what they are doing right there, others who will mark in the service records that the car has been altered, and there are others who just fix the car no matter what. Yes the law exists but if your engine seizes and it was tuned and the dealer tells you sorry not covered, waiving that law in their face probably will not do anything to change the situation. You will likely have to contest that decision legally and that will cost you in both time and money, Not to mention the car will not be fixed while you pursue your legal challenge. Someone mentioned this earlier, but it is the most important element, your relationship with the dealership, mine goes back 30 years and I know that they would do everything possible to make things right (they already did close to 10K of work on my GTS when it was out of warranty), and keep me happy (though happy is not something I can even feel). I return the favor, bottles of good single malt to the service manager, lunch delivered to the employees etc. Someone who was very good with people once told me "no schmooze and you loose", it took a while for me to realize just how right he was. I still would not buy that car, mostly because I don't like the look of all that stuff on it, the other is that where is the fun in buying a modified car. I want to do it myself.

 

DXB GTS, if you are in Europe which is where that car appears to be, you are looking at a car that has been properly built by Brabus.
Brabus is not just a local tuning shop, they are classified as an official manufacturer and they are the Largest Independent Tuner in the World. Brabus is actually a Factory MB resource for special vehicle builds, this is just not something that Car makers like Mercedes want to publicize as they have AMG etc. Brabus is an Official MB partner, and Brabus is the only independent tuner that offers and matches the factory MB Warranty.
Cars like the one you are looking at and posted pictures of features the engine, exterior cosmetics, and the interior...this is a full Brabus built car built by Brabus in Germany, so like anything it is going to be up to the current owner as to what he wants to gain or lose with selling this car, but no matter what this is a unique well built vehicle and the value is going to be based on what the person who desires it to be.
In terms of modifying cars, the saying goes- Cool stuff is not cheap, and cheap stuff isn't cool! You get what you pay for!
I see all sorts of guys with GT's here that have no problem loading up their cars with Chinese Ali baba parts, kind of a shame, I think most of it cheapens these cars no matter how cool it looks. If I could not afford to do Brabus or Renntech, I personally would just leave it stock, but to each their own.