To all CCB(carbon ceramic brake) owners. Anyone has same issue like this?

Old Aug 5, 2021 | 12:15 AM
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To all CCB(carbon ceramic brake) owners. Anyone has same issue like this?

Heard loud noises while turning. I knew rotor is touching backing plates. but going straight wont result touching issues. Which makes me felt so confusing. From PIC#3 we can see it does have clearance. Both side when I lift on hoist even turning the wheel lock to lock wont have rubbing issue, but lower to ground with turns it will touching. Plan to running plateless, or modify the plate a little bit. BTW wheel bolt was tight! WHY they make contact? confusing...




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Old Aug 5, 2021 | 02:48 AM
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Hi,

Removing the back plates is not a good idea.
They act as a heat shield and improve brake cooling.

First, I would check the wheel bearings. If the bearing clearance is too large, this maybee could be the source of the error.

Tip: Never hang a brake caliper on the brake hose.


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Old Aug 5, 2021 | 08:33 AM
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I have titanium shims on mine and whenever I have brand new pads I get a lot of rubbing and noise - first track day it burns off quick though.
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Old Aug 5, 2021 | 03:28 PM
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What he said exactly, you have excessive play in the wheel bearing most likely.

Originally Posted by Stenzel-Germany
Hi,

Removing the back plates is not a good idea.
They act as a heat shield and improve brake cooling.

First, I would check the wheel bearings. If the bearing clearance is too large, this maybee could be the source of the error.

Tip: Never hang a brake caliper on the brake hose.


Kind Regards

Stenzel
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Old Aug 5, 2021 | 08:02 PM
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Hope the car is under warranty. Would not be too happy replacing that rotor.
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Old Aug 6, 2021 | 12:33 AM
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it shouldn't rub by any means. If there's rubbing in any condition with the backplates or other component then one of the components is either not installed properly or defected.

I have the TIKT duct so the backing plates were removed. From time to time I do need to adjust the duct a bit to avoid rubbing, so my suggestion is to see if you can check and see if the plates are bend or not.
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Old Aug 6, 2021 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by supertanch
I have the TIKT duct so the backing plates were removed. From time to time I do need to adjust the duct a bit to avoid rubbing ...
I don't want to hijack this thread, but where do you find the ducts start to rub ... and is it front/back/both?
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Old Aug 6, 2021 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Stenzel-Germany
First, I would check the wheel bearings. If the bearing clearance is too large, this maybee could be the source of the error.
Hi ,

Part numbers:

Wheel bearing front: A222 334 00 00
Wheel bearing rear: A205 356 00 00

Easy assembly, the bearings are screwed and not pressed in.

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Originally Posted by user33
I don't want to hijack this thread, but where do you find the ducts start to rub ... and is it front/back/both?
Just the fronts - over a period of time some of the bolts could come lose, so applied a bit of locktile on them will help.
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Originally Posted by mathechr
Hope the car is under warranty. Would not be too happy replacing that rotor.
Unless a manufacturing fault is shown, rotors are consumables. About $4k a piece. But while the pic of the rotor looks somewhat dramatic, the quality is too low to tell is the rotor is truly gouged or just has some surface scuffing. A close-up may help.
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Originally Posted by supertanch
Just the fronts - over a period of time some of the bolts could come lose, so applied a bit of locktile on them will help.
I assume you're talking about the TiKT-supplied hex-head bolts ... true? I applied locktite when I did mine.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
... the quality is too low to tell is the rotor is truly gouged or just has some surface scuffing. A close-up may help.
Yes, it'd be interesting to see a closeup pic. I'd assume that the aluminum in the backing-plates is actually softer than the brake-pad material so there will just be scuffing and likely some aluminum deposits on the rotor ... hopefully.
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I assume you're talking about the TiKT-supplied hex-head bolts ... true? I applied locktite when I did mine.
Yep that's correct. But due to the heat that these rotors generate on track, even locktite can be broken down at times, just check them every 3-4 events to be sure.
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