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Old Aug 15, 2025 | 08:39 AM
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Anybody else found Michelin PS4S noisy? Mine are 4 years old with still 7/32 and 5/32 and they are moaning and groaning most of the time.
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Old Aug 15, 2025 | 08:57 AM
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Old Aug 15, 2025 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gafitanu
Anybody else found Michelin PS4S noisy? Mine are 4 years old with still 7/32 and 5/32 and they are moaning and groaning most of the time.
Yes those tires are known to be quiet, but the other properties outweigh this "nuisance".
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Old Aug 15, 2025 | 11:45 PM
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I’ve been searching for the best tire imo for my GT63SE, a very heavy car. I got a great tire guy and he basically charges me like 100 bucks if I put a hundred miles on the tires and want to change again. Considering that the 21 inch wheels are not really industry standard, I don’t consider it that bad. Anyways, here in Canada for some reason I could only order the car with Michelin all seasons or Cup 2’s. I ordered it with the all seasons because I knew I’d change the tires and didn’t want cups. I tried the PZero’s, Conti 5P’s, and even Kumho sports. What I settled on was Michelin Pilot Sport 4S’s. I got the ones with the noise reduction tech. They’re literally lined with foam on the inside, it’s pretty cool to see. What a difference, they’re so nice and quiet. In electric mode with all the different tires all you could hear was road and tire noise. With the pilot 4S’s noise reduction tech tires it’s like driving an S-Class, plus you get the legendary road handling characteristics that the pilot sport lineup is known for.
But… as another poster pointed out, when they wear down they get loud! Also when they get older the compound stiffens which also makes it louder. Even though you have tread depth left, the tires being 4 years old will add to the noise you’re experiencing. I’d suggest getting a new set and get the noise reduction tech. I thought it would be a stupid gimmick, but man was I wrong!

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Old Aug 16, 2025 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Yes those tires are known to be quiet, but the other properties outweigh this "nuisance".
Opps typo "aren't" known to be quiet I mean.
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Old Aug 16, 2025 | 08:31 AM
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What do you mean by noise reduction tech? A different category of PS4S? How did you see foam inside the tire?
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Old Aug 16, 2025 | 09:10 AM
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2016 GTS I just picked up., Has almost original tires on it from 2018. Not just noisy, but freaking HARD as well. I keep airing them down, and still rough.

The hardness? also known?

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Old Aug 16, 2025 | 09:53 AM
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I heard the new P S 5 tires is better overall not only just in terms of road noise. Problem is, its availability is rather limited
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2016 GTS I just picked up., Has almost original tires on it from 2018. Not just noisy, but freaking HARD as well. I keep airing them down, and still rough.
.You buy a performance car. Basically, a street legal track car.
..Car comes with 8+ year old tires
...You keep airing tires down because they're noisy and "HARD as well", instead of putting new tires under the car. You do realize you're actually putting more stress on those 8 year old sidewalls when you air them down, yeah?

....When one of those old, "noisy" and "HARD" tires blows out and you wreck, will you'll blame the tires because... well why not, or will you realize that old tires are not something you want under a 4500 lb chunk of metal that's traveling at over 88 feet per second... or at any speed, really?

Are you one of those people who buys a performance car and then can't afford the maintenance and wear items replacement costs on it? Or, let me guess, it's going in for new tires next week, or some other such thing?
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.You buy a performance car. Basically, a street legal track car.
..Car comes with 8+ year old tires
...You keep airing tires down because they're noisy and "HARD as well", instead of putting new tires under the car. You do realize you're actually putting more stress on those 8 year old sidewalls when you air them down, yeah?

....When one of those old, "noisy" and "HARD" tires blows out and you wreck, will you'll blame the tires because... well why not, or will you realize that old tires are not something you want under a 4500 lb chunk of metal that's traveling at over 88 feet per second... or at any speed, really?

Are you one of those people who buys a performance car and then can't afford the maintenance and wear items replacement costs on it? Or, let me guess, it's going in for new tires next week, or some other such thing?

What In The Actual.....I never said any of the things you assume about me, including whether I plan to replace the tires (which I do) And my expendable income level is none of your business. You must have woken up on the wrong side of the bed. Have a good day.

P.S. my car weighs 3620 lbs on the local scale.

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Old Aug 16, 2025 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by mws
What In The Actual.....I never said any of the things
Originally Posted by mws
2016 GTS I just picked up., Has almost original tires on it from 2018. Not just noisy, but freaking HARD as well. I keep airing them down, and still rough.
Oh. My bad, thought you kept airing those 8 year old tires down, and the ride is still rough when you drive your car. Silly me.


you assume about me, including whether I plan to replace the tires (which I do)
I can only infer things about you from what you post. And posting how you are driving a car on 8 year old tires that you keep underinflating airing down makes me infer that you are... I don't know, driving a car on tires that are now, not only old, but underinflated? Damned people, assuming things about you.

And my expendable income level is none of your business.
It is indeed, none of my business. Never asked you about your expendable income. There are a lot of people with great expendable incomes that are cheapskates and don't properly maintain their car(s), be it because they don't want to spend the money, or because they don't know any better, like how much more dangerous underinflated 8 year old tires can be.

You must have woken up on the wrong side of the bed. Have a good day.
I did, actually. Some effing bird was chirping and woke me up, tearing me away from that mountain top cabin I was sharing with some hot blonde chick.

P.S. my car weighs 3620 lbs on the local scale.
P.S. IDNGAF. It's still almost two tons of mass.

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Perhaps it is a good idea to replace those tires, they are aging and tires are what connects the driver to the road. I guess fair to say being on the forums, OP is an enthusiast.
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What do you mean by noise reduction tech? A different category of PS4S? How did you see foam inside the tire?
Yes you can literally see the foam liner inside the tires.


In my opinion they’re a game changer. In luxury performance cars, tire, road and wind is usually what attributes the most to cabin noise. These tires have almost completely eliminated tire and road noise on my GT63SE 4 Door.

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Old Aug 17, 2025 | 02:28 PM
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PS4 S is my tire of choice under my S class as well. I get around 5500 miles out of a set or rears, and I don't drive like a jackass.

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That foamer lining is so simple, it’s genius. Is anyone else regretting not thinking of it? Also, how do you see foam? Go to the ocean shore on a windy day.
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how do you see foam? Go to the ocean shore on a windy day.
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If you have the tires delivered and installed at the shop then the tire rack picture is the only place to see the foam. Interesting, I was thinking that tire noise comes from the contact of the tire surface with the road + other factors such as temperature, speed, pressure, wear, age, etc. If I were to guess, the foam is there for extra protection in case of pressure loss event. I may be wrong, it’s really interesting.
On a different note, I had a flat on my EQB run flat tires recently. I was expecting the tire to maintain some percentage of the operating shape. Nope, it got squished just like a regular tire. I didn’t drive on it, got a spare and took it home.
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Originally Posted by gafitanu
If you have the tires delivered and installed at the shop then the tire rack picture is the only place to see the foam. Interesting, I was thinking that tire noise comes from the contact of the tire surface with the road.
My shop let me see the inside of the tires and they had more foam than the stock pic I posted. The whole interior of the tire was foam lined including the side walls.

Yes tire noise comes from contact with the road. Specifically: tire runs on road, this creates vibration, vibration from the tire is then transferred to the wheel, from there the vibration goes through the wheel hub into the suspension and into the frame, the result of which is…you hear road noise. The foam lining acts as dampener, so significantly less vibration is transferred through the vehicles components into your ossicles and cochlea.

These foam lined tires work great and in my opinion cut out well over 70% of the perceived road noise vs standard tires.
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Awesome explanation, thank you. It makes sense, was this foam upgrade introduced recently? After 2021?
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Is there anyone who knows about the foam liner, who can say whether or not it will quiet the tire screeching during skidding ? The screeching of the tire is a good cue to let off whatever maneuver is being conducted. Or, at a minimum, don’t press the tire for any more performance.
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Awesome explanation, thank you. It makes sense, was this foam upgrade introduced recently? After 2021?
2015 on the Mercedes S-Class.
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Is there anyone who knows about the foam liner, who can say whether or not it will quiet the tire screeching during skidding ? The screeching of the tire is a good cue to let off whatever maneuver is being conducted. Or, at a minimum, don’t press the tire for any more performance.
I don’t think it will help with that.
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Originally Posted by W205C43PFL
Perhaps it is a good idea to replace those tires, they are aging and tires are what connects the driver to the road. I guess fair to say being on the forums, OP is an enthusiast.
I forgot to add why I meant to say that, which is safety first.
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I forgot to add why I meant to say that, which is safety first.
I am not a big fan of safety first.
If we wanted to put safety first, we would never go anywhere near 5 miles from our house.
That’s where most accidents occur.
We almost always prioritize at least one other consideration over safety.
As regards the 8 year old, under inflated tires, that’s not managing risk very well.
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Originally Posted by MB2timer
If we wanted to put safety first, we would never go anywhere near 5 miles from our house.
That’s where most accidents occur.
Agreed! That's why I moved 1/2 around the world!... oh... wait....
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Originally Posted by MB2timer
I am not a big fan of safety first.
If we wanted to put safety first, we would never go anywhere near 5 miles from our house.
That’s where most accidents occur.
We almost always prioritize at least one other consideration over safety.
As regards the 8 year old, under inflated tires, that’s not managing risk very well.
I still remember there was a post on the forums of a member complaining their insurance went up, apparently insurance expect them to park their vehicle in the garage all year long.
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