How to: Applying waxes and Paint sealants
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Don't use silicone based products
I don't what is in all the products you are talking about but I know my body shop (his customers have sold over 80 cars at the Barrett-Jackson auctions restored by this guy for mid six figures) does not use silicone-based products.
He will not allow silicone-based products in his shop because they are incompatible with repainting a car to Concurs quality. They have to be stripped from the finish unlike paint-compatible products.
He mixed me up some secret formula stuff that he uses to detail cars for judging. I know that some it is 3M based but that is all he will say.
I just wash the car with DuPont car wash and then apply his secret formula.
I have seen Zaino cars at shows - they look great! My guy's secret sauce is every bit as good if not better.
He will not allow silicone-based products in his shop because they are incompatible with repainting a car to Concurs quality. They have to be stripped from the finish unlike paint-compatible products.
He mixed me up some secret formula stuff that he uses to detail cars for judging. I know that some it is 3M based but that is all he will say.
I just wash the car with DuPont car wash and then apply his secret formula.
I have seen Zaino cars at shows - they look great! My guy's secret sauce is every bit as good if not better.
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Formula revealed
I don't what is in all the products you are talking about but I know my body shop (his customers have sold over 80 cars at the Barrett-Jackson auctions restored by this guy for mid six figures) does not use silicone-based products.
He will not allow silicone-based products in his shop because they are incompatible with repainting a car to Concurs quality. They have to be stripped from the finish unlike paint-compatible products.
He mixed me up some secret formula stuff that he uses to detail cars for judging. I know that some it is 3M based but that is all he will say.
I just wash the car with DuPont car wash and then apply his secret formula.
I have seen Zaino cars at shows - they look great! My guy's secret sauce is every bit as good if not better.
He will not allow silicone-based products in his shop because they are incompatible with repainting a car to Concurs quality. They have to be stripped from the finish unlike paint-compatible products.
He mixed me up some secret formula stuff that he uses to detail cars for judging. I know that some it is 3M based but that is all he will say.
I just wash the car with DuPont car wash and then apply his secret formula.
I have seen Zaino cars at shows - they look great! My guy's secret sauce is every bit as good if not better.
Apply 3M Imperial Glaze - you may have to get this at a speciality autoparts supplier to the trade.
Apply Mother's Carnuba Wax (not wax-cleaner) - Pep Boys has this locally.
Result- world class shine that lasts and is paint-compatible!
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How to: Applying waxes and Paint sealants?
It was European coach builders that first applied coatings of animal fats and wax to protect the custom paint on their horse-drawn carriages. This tradition has endured over 100 years and is still a great way to protect the paint on modern-day coaches.
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2010 E350 4Matic w/sport package
I usually gave a mobile detailer do my car at the house or I bring it to the detailer and have not kept up on new and improved waxes. The guy just applied paint sealant on my car last week and I put the Carnuba wax on last night after a wash to to test it out and was so pleased how easy it goes on and wipes right off. I also noticed my car is much smoother with the Carnuba, much more than the sealant so I assume it is okay for me to wax my car with the Carnuba wax even though the car just had this paint sealant put on? I can't see anything wrong with that?
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07 C230 SPORT V6
I agree that not all Sealants will remove scratches, but they can hide them pretty GOOD!
Only if you go with a company that has been around, and is in car shows!!! I prefer to use Mothers - sealants/glaze, Reflections car wax, Top coat. In my opinion I think they are the best
You should see how black my car IS....
Only if you go with a company that has been around, and is in car shows!!! I prefer to use Mothers - sealants/glaze, Reflections car wax, Top coat. In my opinion I think they are the best
You should see how black my car IS....
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First off you must wash your vehicle completely with a quality car wash soap or if you are using a paint sealant a wash using DAWN dishwashing detergent because this will strip the paint of all the waxes or oils that are on the paint. A paint sealant needs a near perfect surface so it can properly "bond" to the paint. If you do not use a dawn wash it may affect durability of the sealant. Make sure to use the blue dawn or equivalant dishwashing soap and not to use ones with lotions or oils to make it easier on the skin. .
If I am removing wax, I don't want to fool around with somebodies brand favorites, I want all the wax off.
Those wax brand car wash detergent will not remove wax that easily, they are not designed to cut the wax, only to clean the surface of their particular brand of wax.
This can allow for the wax to build up over time.
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2021 Mojave Silver E450, 2024 Black on Black Jaguar F-pace P400, 2011 335d (RIP), 2010 E350 (sold)
I agree that any dishwashing liquid will out clean the average car wash soap.
If I am removing wax, I don't want to fool around with somebodies brand favorites, I want all the wax off.
Those wax brand car wash detergent will not remove wax that easily, they are not designed to cut the wax, only to clean the surface of their particular brand of wax.
This can allow for the wax to build up over time.
If I am removing wax, I don't want to fool around with somebodies brand favorites, I want all the wax off.
Those wax brand car wash detergent will not remove wax that easily, they are not designed to cut the wax, only to clean the surface of their particular brand of wax.
This can allow for the wax to build up over time.
If you are going to wax then you want to take off the old wax so use a soap that will do that for you.
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Need NYC detail
I'm a NYC owner of 06 black E that has a few chips and little age related marks. Does anyone know of a detailer with touch-up and scratch repair skills in addition to the basics in the Queens NY area who can do house (co-op garage) calls? The best car washes near me offer detailing but I don't trust their knowledge or materials.
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I wouldn't wax it every time I wash.
I wash my car 2 or 3 times a month, that's quite a bit of work if I have to wax it too.
It's a trick finding a wax that can take washing and not require removal for extended periods of time. Some say carnuba is long lasting but its very hard to remove.
I use a instant spray shine, it don't last but it goes on and comes off real easy.
I wash my car 2 or 3 times a month, that's quite a bit of work if I have to wax it too.
It's a trick finding a wax that can take washing and not require removal for extended periods of time. Some say carnuba is long lasting but its very hard to remove.
I use a instant spray shine, it don't last but it goes on and comes off real easy.
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I had my OptiCoat Pro applied on my Diamond White 2011 R350 Jan 2014. Been washing it regularly and in October 2014 did a de-contamination with TRIX and also clayed it. Now that we are in the winter season, I was thinking of sealing it with Klasse and then applying Collonite 845 as a further protection.
What do you guys think of this approach? suggestions are welcome.
What do you guys think of this approach? suggestions are welcome.
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I had my OptiCoat Pro applied on my Diamond White 2011 R350 Jan 2014. Been washing it regularly and in October 2014 did a de-contamination with TRIX and also clayed it. Now that we are in the winter season, I was thinking of sealing it with Klasse and then applying Collonite 845 as a further protection.
What do you guys think of this approach? suggestions are welcome.
What do you guys think of this approach? suggestions are welcome.
Just wash the car with Ph neutral Shampoo and thats it...
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From: California, USA
2025 E-Class All-Terrain wagon
Any tips for BRAND NEW car? I thought Chemical Brothers Paint Sealant which has some wax pre-mixed into the liquid would be good. However I have to do this by hand...I have no machines.
