Pinnacle or Wolfgang Fuzion?
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Mine is a black car. Please look at my photo album. Early photos are Pinnacle, then several with Fuzion; lastly the best are with Swisswax (60% Carnuba) and that's what I have been using for at least a couple of years. I have great respect for
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Looks great.
We lost the last words on you sentence, but thank you for the tip on Swisswax. Nice car!
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Nick- thanks. I use Pinnacle on my red car with outstanding results, but I had heard Fuzion was better for metallics. Thanks for confirming.
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but I have a C class in Palladium as well and I'm curious what you found that worked? I just can't breakdown and drop $175 on wax, I have to think there are more cost-effective alternatives.
I'm currently planning on going with Blackfire Wet Paint Sealant, followed by some Megs Gold Class Carnuba, but i'm curious what worked best on the Palladium silver.
I'm currently planning on going with Blackfire Wet Paint Sealant, followed by some Megs Gold Class Carnuba, but i'm curious what worked best on the Palladium silver.
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but I have a C class in Palladium as well and I'm curious what you found that worked? I just can't breakdown and drop $175 on wax, I have to think there are more cost-effective alternatives.
I'm currently planning on going with Blackfire Wet Paint Sealant, followed by some Megs Gold Class Carnuba, but i'm curious what worked best on the Palladium silver.
I'm currently planning on going with Blackfire Wet Paint Sealant, followed by some Megs Gold Class Carnuba, but i'm curious what worked best on the Palladium silver.
Case in point: HD SPEED alone. Before adding protection.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/6936741210/http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/6936741210/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/, on Flickr
The gloss is always coming from prep. Some say 90% is prep. So wash with 2 bucket method, clay gently, use a paint cleaner like HD PSEED or a polish like HD UNO and add protection - HD POXY
This gloss was produced on this old single stage paint from 1967 with only 2 products: HD UNO and HD POXY. Just imagine how your quality paint could look.
Each product under $20
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/6834330399/http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/6834330399/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/, on Flickr
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/6834331591/http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomasdekany/6834331591/ by http://www.flickr.com/people/thomasdekany/, on Flickr
In this case I'd naturally suggest HD POXY
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Depending on the condition of your paint, One product may work better than another.
IMPORTANT: CONDITION OF PAINT UNDER THE WAX.
Your car may have a excellent shine on it but it may not be the paint that gives off the shine.
Sometimes it is only a aftermarket wax shine and we know that is superficial and temporary.
Wax can hide a number of defects in the paint including the overall condition.
Removing the wax with hot water and dishwashing liquid is the safest because it does not involve any form abrasives that can mar yuour paint.
If Your paint looks uneven or the shine fades in and out, you can benefit from some light restoration that could involve, clay, polish and wax.
If your paint has a distinct and even shine once the wax is removed you should use products that do not contain any abrasives of any kind.
Clay, rubbing compound and polish, all are abrasive and will damage the factory finish.
With a good paint finish think: NON ABRASIVE PRESERVATION.
What ever choice of protectant you use to preserve the shine on your car, pick one that requires the least amount of friction to apply and will clean up without the use of abrasives.
IMPORTANT: CONDITION OF PAINT UNDER THE WAX.
Your car may have a excellent shine on it but it may not be the paint that gives off the shine.
Sometimes it is only a aftermarket wax shine and we know that is superficial and temporary.
Wax can hide a number of defects in the paint including the overall condition.
Removing the wax with hot water and dishwashing liquid is the safest because it does not involve any form abrasives that can mar yuour paint.
If Your paint looks uneven or the shine fades in and out, you can benefit from some light restoration that could involve, clay, polish and wax.
If your paint has a distinct and even shine once the wax is removed you should use products that do not contain any abrasives of any kind.
Clay, rubbing compound and polish, all are abrasive and will damage the factory finish.
With a good paint finish think: NON ABRASIVE PRESERVATION.
What ever choice of protectant you use to preserve the shine on your car, pick one that requires the least amount of friction to apply and will clean up without the use of abrasives.
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I feel that your info is very confusing. 
Sorry.
Once the paint is "perfect" as time goes on, you will need to clay again and polish. Neither will "damage" the paint.
However washing, drying will create swirls. Just look at cars that are always hand washed yet never polished. All swirled up.
Your thoughts?
Sorry.Once the paint is "perfect" as time goes on, you will need to clay again and polish. Neither will "damage" the paint.
However washing, drying will create swirls. Just look at cars that are always hand washed yet never polished. All swirled up.
Your thoughts?
Depending on the condition of your paint, One product may work better than another.
IMPORTANT: CONDITION OF PAINT UNDER THE WAX.
Your car may have a excellent shine on it but it may not be the paint that gives off the shine.
Sometimes it is only a aftermarket wax shine and we know that is superficial and temporary.
Wax can hide a number of defects in the paint including the overall condition.
Removing the wax with hot water and dishwashing liquid is the safest because it does not involve any form abrasives that can mar yuour paint.
If Your paint looks uneven or the shine fades in and out, you can benefit from some light restoration that could involve, clay, polish and wax.
If your paint has a distinct and even shine once the wax is removed you should use products that do not contain any abrasives of any kind.
Clay, rubbing compound and polish, all are abrasive and will damage the factory finish.
With a good paint finish think: NON ABRASIVE PRESERVATION.
What ever choice of protectant you use to preserve the shine on your car, pick one that requires the least amount of friction to apply and will clean up without the use of abrasives.
IMPORTANT: CONDITION OF PAINT UNDER THE WAX.
Your car may have a excellent shine on it but it may not be the paint that gives off the shine.
Sometimes it is only a aftermarket wax shine and we know that is superficial and temporary.
Wax can hide a number of defects in the paint including the overall condition.
Removing the wax with hot water and dishwashing liquid is the safest because it does not involve any form abrasives that can mar yuour paint.
If Your paint looks uneven or the shine fades in and out, you can benefit from some light restoration that could involve, clay, polish and wax.
If your paint has a distinct and even shine once the wax is removed you should use products that do not contain any abrasives of any kind.
Clay, rubbing compound and polish, all are abrasive and will damage the factory finish.
With a good paint finish think: NON ABRASIVE PRESERVATION.
What ever choice of protectant you use to preserve the shine on your car, pick one that requires the least amount of friction to apply and will clean up without the use of abrasives.
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I feel that your info is very confusing. Sorry.
Once the paint is "perfect" as time goes on, you will need to clay again and polish. Neither will "damage" the paint.
However washing, drying will create swirls. Just look at cars that are always hand washed yet never polished. All swirled up.
Your thoughts?
Sorry.Once the paint is "perfect" as time goes on, you will need to clay again and polish. Neither will "damage" the paint.
However washing, drying will create swirls. Just look at cars that are always hand washed yet never polished. All swirled up.
Your thoughts?
I only see swirl marks on cars that people constantly wax or try to clean with dry towel.
Anyone who is honest with you will tell you that clay can and will mar the paint.
Anyone who understands that polish is an abrasive know it will also leave marks in the paint.
If your paint is old and mared up your method is useful.
But with a newer unmared paint job the best advice is to stay away from any product that requires buffing and removal or is abrasive.
