The build starts, 320 cdi with stand alone ecu, twin turbo
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Very interesting engine. Is this engine from a north American 2005-2006 E320 CDi? However, there is a red dipstick on the passenger side which is not present on all straight 6 diesels in the 2005-2006 cars.
I look forward to viewing your masterpiece.
I look forward to viewing your masterpiece.
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Late Built 2005 W-211 E-320 CDI
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As the rather late VIN 2005 I just bought has that red-tipped plug on a tube located at the right rear (drivers side) of the motor when the engine cover has been removed.
But no dipstick!
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Is that where a fellow could fit a dipstick to manually check the oil level?
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If so, where and how to get a factory accurate dipstick?
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As the rather late VIN 2005 I just bought has that red-tipped plug on a tube located at the right rear (drivers side) of the motor when the engine cover has been removed.
But no dipstick!
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Is that where a fellow could fit a dipstick to manually check the oil level?
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If so, where and how to get a factory accurate dipstick?
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Late Built 2005 W-211 E-320 CDI
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Mr. Green: Good to see you posting again! I hope you are keeping well in sunny CA. The red tipped plug on the passenger side of the engine is the oil check cap and you can buy a MB "tool" which is really a dipstick way, way too long for the tube (i.e. you cannot leave it in the tube after measuring the oil level because the hood cannot close).
This is so stupid.
This is so stupid.
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Good to be back here and with a 'proper' car too!
See:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
The whole idea of what they did is without thought on the part of MBZ, and as you say 'so stupid.'
What really angers me is what MBZ tries to charge for that special
'tool' which should have come with the car in the first place.
I for one like to see what the oil level really is on a dipstick, not some readout message that says add or subtract oil!
At $105 USD, that is simply too much IMHO. I am on a fixed income!
Do you have one?
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After all, its not rocket science. If you had just changed the oil and added the proper amount which takes I guess less than seven (7) liters,
could not anyone figure out where the level would be and mark a rod at that level and go from there?
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I have just rec'd a new thermostat housing and thermostat 'cause the car runs cold all the time. Even today, with the temperature in the
mid 80's F, the gauge in city traffic reads only 60 C. And on the freeway at night when it is in the high forties (40's) F,
the gauge will only read but 40 C, and the thermostat is arould 90 to 92 C isn't it?
I have a leaking injector seal. Would not have know about that except I pulled the top covers and was driving it like that,
and right away I smelled diesel fumes within the cabin. Put two and two together and started looking closely around the base
of the injectors, and sure enough, I found the problem. Would never have smelled it with the center cover in place.
Sent for new seals, but I think I got the wrong ones. The ones I got have a small diameter hole a little over 1/2 inch in diameter,
are copper, almost like a small spark plug washer. Part number: 611 017 00 60, 924.867 111500 04/11 D0311J05.
I will have to swing by a dealer and look at their microfishe and see for sure exactly what I need.
My CDI is a runner for sure! Blows the doors off my 2010 JSW TDI and it was 'tuned' and it ran well; There in no comparison.
This thing goes to 100 MPH so darn fast, and unlike the CR TDIs with their DPFs, it WILL SMOKE, especially
when you have not jumped on the throttle for some time. I LOVE IT! I guess the soot builds up in the pipes over time.
Was surprised to see that mine has two mufflers.
I wonder if it helps to remove those two rear mufflers. Wonder if they have any back-pressure?
Keep in touch and pass along any information you may know of, especially on making one of those homemade
dipstick bayonet gauges. Yes, that's what they used to be called . . See how old I am?
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Good to be back here and with a 'proper' car too!
See:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...standard=false
The whole idea of what they did is without thought on the part of MBZ, and as you say 'so stupid.'
What really angers me is what MBZ tries to charge for that special
'tool' which should have come with the car in the first place.
I for one like to see what the oil level really is on a dipstick, not some readout message that says add or subtract oil!
At $105 USD, that is simply too much IMHO. I am on a fixed income!
Do you have one?
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
After all, its not rocket science. If you had just changed the oil and added the proper amount which takes I guess less than seven (7) liters,
could not anyone figure out where the level would be and mark a rod at that level and go from there?
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
I have just rec'd a new thermostat housing and thermostat 'cause the car runs cold all the time. Even today, with the temperature in the
mid 80's F, the gauge in city traffic reads only 60 C. And on the freeway at night when it is in the high forties (40's) F,
the gauge will only read but 40 C, and the thermostat is arould 90 to 92 C isn't it?
I have a leaking injector seal. Would not have know about that except I pulled the top covers and was driving it like that,
and right away I smelled diesel fumes within the cabin. Put two and two together and started looking closely around the base
of the injectors, and sure enough, I found the problem. Would never have smelled it with the center cover in place.
Sent for new seals, but I think I got the wrong ones. The ones I got have a small diameter hole a little over 1/2 inch in diameter,
are copper, almost like a small spark plug washer. Part number: 611 017 00 60, 924.867 111500 04/11 D0311J05.
I will have to swing by a dealer and look at their microfishe and see for sure exactly what I need.
My CDI is a runner for sure! Blows the doors off my 2010 JSW TDI and it was 'tuned' and it ran well; There in no comparison.
This thing goes to 100 MPH so darn fast, and unlike the CR TDIs with their DPFs, it WILL SMOKE, especially
when you have not jumped on the throttle for some time. I LOVE IT! I guess the soot builds up in the pipes over time.
Was surprised to see that mine has two mufflers.
I wonder if it helps to remove those two rear mufflers. Wonder if they have any back-pressure?
Keep in touch and pass along any information you may know of, especially on making one of those homemade
dipstick bayonet gauges. Yes, that's what they used to be called . . See how old I am?
Regards,
![Big Grin](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Derrel
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Hi,
I was wondering where you are located and where Chysler was builting and selling the 300 sedan with the MBZ 3.2L CR engines?
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Are these vehicles equipped with the MBZ five speed automatic transmissions? What years are these sedans?
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Will their transmissions stand the increases in Horsepower and Torque?
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Keep us posted please. Sounds like a very interesting project to be sure!
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Late Built 2005 W-211 E-320 CDI
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Hope you can get enough pictures with measurements so we each will be able to copy it and each have one in our garages at home.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi,
I was wondering where you are located and where Chysler was builting and selling the 300 sedan with the MBZ 3.2L CR engines?
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
Are these vehicles equipped with the MBZ five speed automatic transmissions? What years are these sedans?
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
Will their transmissions stand the increases in Horsepower and Torque?
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
Keep us posted please. Sounds like a very interesting project to be sure!
![thumbs](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
Regards,
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Derrel
The 300C and Jeep Grand cherokee (WK 05-10) & commander all use the V6 3,0L cdi engine from mercedes (not the inline 6) and 5 speed auto (NAG1/W5A580 or in the jeep they call it the W5J400)
They were manufactured in Austria in Graz where the G-Klass is build
The 300C also exists here as a station wagon (dodge magnnum with 300C front)
The Auto trany can take 580 NM of torque, after that they need to be beefed up, for wich AMG clutches can be used I read.
Bye
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Late Built 2005 W-211 E-320 CDI
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Thanks for your response.
Guess I'm confused, as the pictured motor is the straight six, not the V6 isn't it?
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The reason I am interested is that I have the straight six 3.222L engine
in my E-320 CDI Benz with the five speed automtic transmission.
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Are you thinking of warming up a straight 3.2 Liter six or the 3.0 Liter V6?
The straight six will not fit into your 300C CRD will it? Isn't it too long?
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Thanks for your response.
Guess I'm confused, as the pictured motor is the straight six, not the V6 isn't it?
![Confused](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/confused.gif)
The reason I am interested is that I have the straight six 3.222L engine
in my E-320 CDI Benz with the five speed automtic transmission.
![drive](https://mbworld.org/forums/images/smilies/driving.gif)
Are you thinking of warming up a straight 3.2 Liter six or the 3.0 Liter V6?
The straight six will not fit into your 300C CRD will it? Isn't it too long?
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Actually, I am building 2 straight six for my boat.
And... in my grand cherokee I also have a V6 (OM 642).
For this one I purchased the new garrett ball bearing turbo from the OM 642 LS the 265HP version the GTB2260VKLR
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Why should I want a 6 inline in my car?
Actually, I am building 2 straight six for my boat.
And... in my grand cherokee I also have a V6 (OM 642).
For this one I purchased the new garrett ball bearing turbo from the OM 642 LS the 265HP version the GTB2260VKLR
And this should bring the V6 to 320 - 330 HP
Actually, I am building 2 straight six for my boat.
And... in my grand cherokee I also have a V6 (OM 642).
For this one I purchased the new garrett ball bearing turbo from the OM 642 LS the 265HP version the GTB2260VKLR
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So I see this turbo listed on Garrett's site: OM642 W212 265 3.0/6 D GTB2260VKLR 794877-0004 A642 090 9580
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/appl...mercedes+benz/
And it looks like its compatible with the same engine I have. Any idea if it'll fit in the engine compartment or what ECU modifications I'd need to ? How about pricing? Can't seem to find that specific model listed on websites anywhere.
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Wait.. are you saying the new turbo is compatible with the OM642? If it is, is a swap possible ?
So I see this turbo listed on Garrett's site: OM642 W212 265 3.0/6 D GTB2260VKLR 794877-0004 A642 090 9580
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/appl...mercedes+benz/
And it looks like its compatible with the same engine I have. Any idea if it'll fit in the engine compartment or what ECU modifications I'd need to ? How about pricing? Can't seem to find that specific model listed on websites anywhere.
So I see this turbo listed on Garrett's site: OM642 W212 265 3.0/6 D GTB2260VKLR 794877-0004 A642 090 9580
http://www.turbomaster.info/eng/appl...mercedes+benz/
And it looks like its compatible with the same engine I have. Any idea if it'll fit in the engine compartment or what ECU modifications I'd need to ? How about pricing? Can't seem to find that specific model listed on websites anywhere.
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It's plug & play (normally
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You need a experienced tuner to modify the ECM
I paid 1400 euro.
You don't find any info because it's completely new.