Diesel Forum Forum for Diesel engine vehicle related discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Diesel particulate filter

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old 07-19-2017, 09:25 AM
  #1  
Newbie
Thread Starter
 
vamkris30's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Mercedes Benz E 250 CDI Blueefficiency ED 125
Diesel particulate filter

Hi I bought a Merc E class CDI 250 Bluefficiency Avantgarde ED 125, it has done 58k on the clock. I could see an engine management light and when i took it to local garrage and the diagnostics have confirmed the DPF is faulty and Soot filter pressure sensor fault. Can you please confirm do we need to change DPF for such low mileage.
Old 07-19-2017, 10:32 AM
  #2  
Out Of Control!!

 
Plutoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 14,550
Received 1,019 Likes on 947 Posts
1999 E300TD
If you are looking for HS and guesses simply wait, however if you want a correct answer you will find someone with XDOS who will attach the diagnostics and in five minutes he will have a correct answer. It is an expensive part---choose wisely!!
Old 07-25-2017, 06:48 AM
  #3  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
decorily's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,114
Received 183 Likes on 150 Posts
GLC 300d 4matic
You say your car has only 58k on the clock.

With regard to DPF it is not the mileage that matters but the 'type' of mileage.
DPFs don't cope well with city or short journey driving.
Old 07-27-2017, 09:19 AM
  #4  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
marc hanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 1,138
Received 112 Likes on 76 Posts
2008 R320 CDI, 1987 560SL
Is the car still under warranty? I agree with Pluto, you should get at proper diagnosis done, it could mean the difference between a $100 repair and a $4,000 repair.
Old 07-27-2017, 11:11 AM
  #5  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
decorily's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,114
Received 183 Likes on 150 Posts
GLC 300d 4matic
Originally Posted by vamkris30
..........and when i took it to local garrage and the diagnostics have confirmed the DPF is faulty and Soot filter pressure sensor fault.

[QUOTE=marc hanna;7221912]Is the car still under warranty? I agree with Pluto, you should get at proper diagnosis done, it could mean the difference between a $100 repair and a $4,000 repair.[/QUOTE

Is that not a "proper diagnosis"?
Old 07-27-2017, 11:25 AM
  #6  
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
marc hanna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Posts: 1,138
Received 112 Likes on 76 Posts
2008 R320 CDI, 1987 560SL
Well, just using a typical scanner may not accurately diagnose a DPF failure. Your car is pretty low mileage, so I question a faulty DPF. It's more likely a bad sensor such as the pressure differential sensor or one of the air lines connected to it.

I got the impression from your post that the mechanic was recommending a DPF replacement, which is pretty extreme. So, I'm not sure if they just scanned it with their OBD2 scanner, which may or may not have the full propriety codes in it or if they did more investigation; i.e. blow out the pressure differential lines, clear code, reconnect, and see if the error returns.

Also, did think give you a print out or list of the stored codes?
Old 08-27-2017, 09:22 AM
  #7  
Junior Member
 
BenzKraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 34
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
2008 E320 Bluetec | 2011 Dodge Durango Citadel | 1965 Mustang Coupe 289 | 2015 Triumph Speedmaster
Originally Posted by vamkris30
Hi I bought a Merc E class CDI 250 Bluefficiency Avantgarde ED 125, it has done 58k on the clock. I could see an engine management light and when i took it to local garrage and the diagnostics have confirmed the DPF is faulty and Soot filter pressure sensor fault. Can you please confirm do we need to change DPF for such low mileage.
Any luck with this? The mileage seems low to have your DPF acting up unless it is just the sensor that is faulty. If it is the DPF that's faulty it could be due to the wrong oil or fuel being used or that oil has been getting into the intake/exhaust gumming things up. These cars need ultra low sulphur diesel and the right spec of oil to run properly. Problems with the DPF are either soot build up because it's not regenerating itself (i.e. converting soot to ash) or ash build up from the active/passive regeneration process. In both cases the DPF can be cleaned out preemptive to replacing it completely. If the problem is soot build up it can be as easy as spraying DPF cleaner in through the differential pressure port in order to force the regeneration of soot to ash and allowing the DPF to breathe once again. If the problem is ash build up (which is less likely due to your mileage) then the DPF has to be cut open and the ash removed then re-welded and sealed. Look for a shop in your area that does such a service. Cheer!

Last edited by BenzKraft; 08-27-2017 at 09:25 AM.
Old 08-27-2017, 07:13 PM
  #8  
Out Of Control!!

 
Plutoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 14,550
Received 1,019 Likes on 947 Posts
1999 E300TD
Very bad advice to spray anything into the DPF---this sounds like one of those glad handing Ben's Wurld advice--that is one quick way to ruin the expensive DPF


Simply take the car to an auto pisto and run the car at 75 for a half hour.
Old 08-27-2017, 09:39 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
 
BenzKraft's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 34
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
2008 E320 Bluetec | 2011 Dodge Durango Citadel | 1965 Mustang Coupe 289 | 2015 Triumph Speedmaster
Originally Posted by Plutoe
Very bad advice to spray anything into the DPF---this sounds like one of those glad handing Ben's Wurld advice--that is one quick way to ruin the expensive DPF


Simply take the car to an auto pisto and run the car at 75 for a half hour.
I agree, you don't just "spray anything" into the DPF, it has to be "DPF Cleaner". A little research (google or YouTube "DPF Cleaner") will show that it's a very common procedure to activate the regeneration process... or you can try the good 'ol "Italian tune up" as you suggested.
Old 08-28-2017, 03:01 PM
  #10  
Out Of Control!!

 
Plutoe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Tampa
Posts: 14,550
Received 1,019 Likes on 947 Posts
1999 E300TD
I use the Webster definitions, not any= not any! nothing left to interpretations.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.

Quick Reply: Diesel particulate filter



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:48 PM.