Difference between 300E and 300e-24
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91 300E-24 Sportline
Difference between 300E and 300e-24
How are these two models different to each other?
Recently purchased 1991 (Australia) 300E-24 Sportline, I love it. It clocked up 250.000 km but runs just fine.
Recently purchased 1991 (Australia) 300E-24 Sportline, I love it. It clocked up 250.000 km but runs just fine.
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2004 C240, 2015 GL350 Bluetec
regular 300e either had a 2.8 or 3.0 liter M103 Engine with I believe 12 valve head. the 300e-24 had the m104 3.0 liter 24 valve engine.
Sportline differs as well, as it has slightly more sporty and stiffer springs, shocks and swaybars and different control arm bushings, closer ratio steering, and 15x7 wheels versus 15x6.5 on the normal 300e.
Sportlines are more rare, still very comfortable suspension, but much nicer over the standard suspension.
AshMan
Sportline differs as well, as it has slightly more sporty and stiffer springs, shocks and swaybars and different control arm bushings, closer ratio steering, and 15x7 wheels versus 15x6.5 on the normal 300e.
Sportlines are more rare, still very comfortable suspension, but much nicer over the standard suspension.
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depending on the M103 engine...
The 3.0L Inline6 177HP & 188lb-ft of torque
The new M104 engine made 217HP & 229lb-ft or torque.
just for kicks...the 500E made 322hp & 354 lb-ft of torque.
The 3.0L Inline6 177HP & 188lb-ft of torque
The new M104 engine made 217HP & 229lb-ft or torque.
just for kicks...the 500E made 322hp & 354 lb-ft of torque.
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Originally Posted by ChrisDPham
depending on the M103 engine...
The 3.0L Inline6 177HP & 188lb-ft of torque
The new M104 engine made 217HP & 229lb-ft or torque.
just for kicks...the 500E made 322hp & 354 lb-ft of torque.
The 3.0L Inline6 177HP & 188lb-ft of torque
The new M104 engine made 217HP & 229lb-ft or torque.
just for kicks...the 500E made 322hp & 354 lb-ft of torque.
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The m103 was never a 24V.... mb made a 3.0 liter 24v engine with 217 hp and I believe 217 or 220 lbs of torgue, which is the original M104. the second Gen M104 was a 3.2 l. with 217hp and 229 pounds of torque as far as I know...
The m103 was 2 valves per cyclinder (hence 12V engine) and the M104 was 4 valves per cylinder (hence 24 valve)...
My car has a 3.0 liter M104 24 Valve Engine. the 93-95 had a 3.2 liter M104 24 Valve Engine.
The m103 was in the pre 1990 model 300CE, and was used in mose w124 6 cylinder sedans except for the ones designated as e320 or as 300e-24.
MB used 3 m103 engines in the 6 cylinder sedans. 2.6 liter (260e), 2.8 liter (300E 2.8) and 3.0 liter (300E)
They used 4 cylinder models in other parts of the world, but I am not sure on the designations.
The big deal between the m104 and m103 was the valve difference from 12 in the m103 to 24 in the m104. The increase in valves per cylinder and the better horsepower and torque was a big deal back in the day.
AshMan
The m103 was 2 valves per cyclinder (hence 12V engine) and the M104 was 4 valves per cylinder (hence 24 valve)...
My car has a 3.0 liter M104 24 Valve Engine. the 93-95 had a 3.2 liter M104 24 Valve Engine.
The m103 was in the pre 1990 model 300CE, and was used in mose w124 6 cylinder sedans except for the ones designated as e320 or as 300e-24.
MB used 3 m103 engines in the 6 cylinder sedans. 2.6 liter (260e), 2.8 liter (300E 2.8) and 3.0 liter (300E)
They used 4 cylinder models in other parts of the world, but I am not sure on the designations.
The big deal between the m104 and m103 was the valve difference from 12 in the m103 to 24 in the m104. The increase in valves per cylinder and the better horsepower and torque was a big deal back in the day.
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Incidently, does your car have the Sportline seats? ie. 2 seats in the rear.
I'm not sure comfortable is the right word. In fact MB decided the Sportline was too firm for the US market back in '91.
Sportlines are more rare, still very comfortable suspension, but much nicer over the standard suspension.
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I've ridden in a sportline, and and regular 300e, and both rode nice, but the sportline was much more sporty thant he standard one, and the ride was still quite comfortable by my standards.
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I've ridden in a sportline, and and regular 300e, and both rode nice, but the sportline was much more sporty thant he standard one, and the ride was still quite comfortable by my standards.
My first w124 was a factory Sportline and the ride was a bit tiresome at slow speed when you just wanted to get from A to B. The coupe was not a sportline and I found the soft ride awful so upgraded it to sportline and a bit!
Worth the slight harshness at slow speeds for the better handling.
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Originally Posted by ashman
MB used 3 m103 engines in the 6 cylinder sedans. 2.6 liter (260e), 2.8 liter (300E 2.8) and 3.0 liter (300E)
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Originally Posted by hartj
i thought that the 2.8 was a m104. introduced in 1993 along with the 300e-3.2-24v. before that was 300e-2.6-12v(and before that the 260e-12v).
1993 was an odd year. The non 4-matic sedans were now either the 300E 2.8L (124.028) with the 2.8L 104.942 engine, or the 300E 3.2L (124.032) with the 3.2L 104.992 engine. These models were badged 280E, 320E, or 300E-24 in other countries. The coupes were all equipped with the 3.2L. However in 1993, the 4-matic models carried over with the older 3.0 103 engine. Confused yet?
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Could you do some measuring?
Originally Posted by zedx
Recently purchased 1991 (Australia) 300E-24 Sportline, I love it.
Thank you
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The numbers...
Originally Posted by ksing44
I would love to know some details about the actual ride height and alignment numbers of that beautiful Sportline in the photo. Would you be willing to measure the distance from the ground to the fender lip and from the center of the wheel to the fender lip? If you know the alignment numbers, could you please tell me how much negative camber there is in the front and especially the rear of the Sportline sedan. I would also be interested in the front toe-in numbers.
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