ProjectC55

What yr did they start putting the multi valve engines(24) L6 or 32 valve V8 in the CE and or E-class?

Chappy

For the U.S. Market, it was with the 1990 300CE (24-valve)

The 300E sedan didn't get the 24-valve motor until the 1993 model year, in the U.S.

32 valve V8s started with the M119 (1992) in the W124 500E and 400E (U.S. versions).

E55AMG99

In the 124 chassis? I think it was 1990 with the M104 I6 and the M119 V8.

ProjectC55

thanx guys!So in 1990 the only multivalve engines BMW had were in the E30 M3 and 1988 E28 M5 which rally came out in 1988.Looks like BMW started this stuff in their cars first or am I wrong? Excluding Honda of course! didnt MB have a multicalve motor V8 in the 80's? The Hammer?

Chappy

190E 2.3-16 was a multi-valve motor. AMG's Hammer was introduced in the 80's and multi-valve motors were also tuned by AMG in the M102 4-cylinder and even as far back as the 5.0 M117 V8s on the W107 chassis!

Chappy

Here's a description of a 1981 W123 chassis 4-door with that 5.0, 4-valve engine installed:

280E 5,0-AMG (4V), Bj. 1981, AMG-5,0Liter Motor m117, AMG-Fahrwerk, AMG-Sportauspuffanlage, AMG Felgen 8x16 vo. + 9x16 hi, 4-Gang Schalter, AMG-Bremsanlage, AMG-Silberpfeil Lenkrad, 1xRecaro Fahrersitz in original Velour. Typisches AMG Fahrzeug, wurde auf Wunsch des Kunden öffters bei AMG umgebaut. Ursprünglich wurde ein 5.0 Motor aus dem W126 eingabaut, später wurde die Maschine auf den berühmten 4-Ventilkopf mit 340 PS in verbindung mit einem Schaltgetriebe aus dem Porsche 928 umgerüstet. Später lies der Kunde diese Technik in einen seinen w124 einbauen, dieser 280 E bekam darauf hin die Technik eines 4,5 Liter V8 eingebaut. Im Rahmen einer Restaurierung bekommt dieser Wagen jetzt wieder die 4 Ventil Maschine mit 340 PS. Der Wagen wurde im Münchner Raum ausgeliefert und ist jetzt im Besitz eines Sammlers in Norddeutschland

and a pic of the sleeper

Chappy

Bottom line, Mercedes-Benz offered production cars with 4-valve technology in the mid-80s, with the 190E 2.3-16.

AMG tuned cars even earlier with monster multi-valve V8s

ProjectC55

Now I thought Cosworth built the motor in the 16v 2.3 and 2.5L 190E? Which body was the M102 4 cyl motor in?

neanderthal

cosworth did the cylinder head. the rest of the engine was still basically an M102.
M102s could be found in 123, 124, 201, 460 bodystyles. im not sure if the vans used them, i believe so.

E55AMG99

You would be wrong since Buggatti beat all of them by over a half century!

Chappy

W201 chassis.