ozmercfan

Look at this 1 hot 300CE amg for sale in japan
got to have the seats
http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g36767918

McBear

I believe those seats are Recaros from the 70's and 80's. I saw a set on eBay a couple of months ago. They went for about $1500 in pretty good shape.

HLG600

Original AMG Hammer...wow . It looks great and truly is a rare vehicle.

neanderthal

looks like darth vaders personal ride.

that gets a from me

shadowgriffen

that car owns me

Sick...

Silvo

Woow!
very nice car

a MONSTER ....

AMG_Eric

i'd bet $100 its not a real hammer. hammers had v-8's if it was a hammer they would show off the engine. it had a 94-95 hood. i have never seen a dual control fan in the center console and this one has a glove box. i would gather its an older car with a kit, seats and a steering wheel.

shadowgriffen

what are those two camera looking tubes on either side of the rear window??

ashman

that is put together. in japan they can do all that body work etc for cheap. it has 500e front fenders and rear fenders. it porbbaly started as a 94 or 95 e320 coupe, and then was modified into this. it is possible the engine was done to 3.4 liters, but that does not mean it is an actual AMG built car, but they did build 3.4 liter motors.

The japanese are crazy into modding their cars, and they execute it very well.

I like everything about the look of that car.

The dials int he center are manual heat/ac controls. in europe and most other parts of the world mb's do not come with automatic AC controls like we are accustomed to here.

The seats are recaros, and are very rare. I like how they look but hate that control pad on the leg bolster part.

the parts to do the conversion to that wider body are easily obtainable in japan which is cheap for them, but extremely pricey for us.

Anyone remember the NSX that was made to look almost like an F40? that is the kind of stuff they do in japan, crazy modding to make a normal car look not so normal anymore.

Japanese modded W124's are a dime a dozen, there are tons of them over there. whether or not some are actual real amgt cars or conversions is extremely hard to determine.

2PHAST

Actually the feders are OE and were flared, you can tell this easily by looking at the fronts vs. the 500E front fenders. Pretty common in Japan to have this done.

Silvo

Hmmm! i'm with ashman..

after translating from japanese ... we get:
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Comment: □1990 July register □90 year model/dealer car (AMGJAPAN)
□left steering wheel
□レカロ
(genuine) black leather seat
sun roof
AMG aluminum wheels
AMG muffler
□94 year mask
AMG aero wide body
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if it is a real hammer why do they have to mention that the wheels is an AMG , the muffler ,wide body ... etc.


something wrong with this japanese market mercedes

CDP

all I want is those wheels.

ozmercfan

The car is AMG Japan delivery there a lots of original amg wide body cars in japan
it was an option on the W126 & W124 coupes the only thing thats not original is the updated hood the 3.4L is AMGs 200KW motor the seats are factory AMG option as are the wheels the duel air is normal for UK & Japan my 300Ce has the duel control
and to Shadowgriffen {those two camera looking tubes on either side of the rear window} are sat nav antenna

shadowgriffen

to Shadowgriffen {those two camera looking tubes on either side of the rear window} are sat nav antenna[/QUOTE]


lol thanks bro! I dont really know what to think of them...

ozmercfan

LOOK W124 car club in japan theres lots of photos http://love.ap.teacup.com/applet/w124mercedes/archive

ashman

that is not a hammer. the hammer by deifnition was not just the bodykit or wheels or suspension, it was the whole package, which consisted of an M117 V8 mercedes engine that was either 5.6 or 6 liters. the hammer had a top speed of around 186 mph, and was referred to as the Hammer by the car magazines. this was how the hammer name came to be.

Unless the car was made by amg witht he v8, it is not a hammer, simply and amg tuned car.

As far as I know, AMG never made a widebody w124, but then again, AMG did lots of things back in the day that they did not keep records of.

It is a nice looking car don't get me wrong, but that would have been an AMG 3.4 with a widebody, not a hammer.

Even if I were to stuff a 3.6 motor in my car it would not be a hammer, it would just look like one.

Now if I were to get an original AMG Hammer engine and stuff it in my car, get all the suspension work done etc that the real hamer had, then it would be a hammer but not an original AMG one.

Either way, I love that car, but it just is not a hammer.

Alon

Chappy

Alon,

I'm not certain about the car in Japan, but AMG did make a custom wide-body W124. Here's a pic...

FWIW, my understanding of the term "Hammer" was only applied to the M117 6.0 with the 4-valve heads....but I could be incorrect.

Legoinsaniac

The m119 engine wasn't introduced until 1990 for the R129's, and didn't make a presence in the w124's until 1992. The Hammer w124's didn't have an m119, but rather a 32-valve version of the m117. The regular m117 only had 16 valves, but AMG produced heads with 4 valves per cylinder, creating the engine that was used in the Hammer, among other cars.

This is my understanding of the matter, and I'm pretty sure it's accurate.

ashman

yeah it was the m117 with a 32 valve head.

They did more than just tune the engine, tranny, differential, undercar plates to change the air path under the car, fender reworking, suspension, they essentially built almost a whole new car when they made the hammer.

Alon

Chappy

My bad....typing too quickly. Yes, it was a conversion of the M117 V8, as found in the W126 560SEL, W107 560SL and W126 560SEC.

Chappy

Here a sweet comparison between the W124 Hammer Coupe and the new W211 E55! (In German, but great photos!)

http://www.autobild.de/tuning/testbe...rtikel_seite=0

ozmercfan

Hi Ashman i did not say its a Hammer but only that its an original AMG and yes thay did the widebody and they did all engine sizes i will post all of them with specs tonight

Legoinsaniac

That comparison is really cool. While the new E55's are faster and more technologically advanced, they just don't have the exclusivity and the coolness factor of the original AMG Hammers. If I had to pick one or the other, disregarding value, I would definetly go for the Hammer. It just makes me drool...

2PHAST

AMG of Japan was a seperate entity from AMG of Germany. AMG of Japan did flare the fenders of many cars, it was an option you could order, just like the Recaro C seats you see in this car. Engine flavors were numerous as well, from 3.0, 3.2 and 3.4 up to the 5 liter V8's.

Documentation would be key to determine the authenticity of this vehicle.

drakon

well, as i understand it, it is VERY expensive to get a car fixed up like that in japan, but anyone in japan buying a mercedes in the 80s probably wasn't too worried about money. (due to ridiculous tax systems, import duties, national pride, etcetera).