Barrington1

This company claims to sell bolt on ECU chips for the w124 which will increase stock horse and torque Power Chip Group
anyone heard of this?
does it work?

Makahveli

they don't make those for my car year

G Man

A quote from their web site for my car.....
"Your Mercedes-Benz 500E 5.0 V8 utilizes a plug-in plug-out chip (EPROM). Fitting is simple and the Powerchip can be installed in about 30 minutes with basic skills and equipment. To install the upgrade software, simply locate the computer and un-plug the standard chip. Place the Powerchip performance chip into the socket and insert fully. Then, close the computer, re-install into the vehicle and start the engine to fully complete the installation process.

In standard form, the 500E 5.0 V8 produces 322 hp and 354 lb.-ft.

Powerchip has a range of chips to suit your car, which can increase it's power to 325 hp, and it's torque to 357 lb.-ft.

The price of the Powerchips for your car is USD $390.00."

Three HP and 3 ftlb's of torque for $390?? What a joke.

Silvo

only 3 horses ? hehehe
We better ask them to ad 3 donkeys in front of their company


I know that there is a (1st Gear Start) chips, but not this chip .

Barrington1

hmm yeah the 500e chip is a joke but there is one for the 300ce which adds like 15 horse i think, just wondering what u guys think

ctC230K

i am thinking about ordering the powerchip for my c230, it claims to add 22hp for $640.

neanderthal

dont forget our cars are from an era when the engineers ruled at mercedes, and thus the cars came out of the box well cooked.

you really cant do too much to 124s without getting stupid. which is why MAG and lorinser and carlsson and the other tuners had such expensive cars.

other thing is mercs were more tuned for torque than outright power and dont/ didnt "respond" so well to being hopped up.

2PHAST

1st gear start is not a chip, rather its either a modified trans valve body or a electronic module that interfaces with the speed sensor and kickdown switch to achieve 1st gear start. The electronic modules are no longer available, but companies such as Renntech still provide the modified valve body service.

Cops_h8_me!

A joke? the joke is that your driving a 500E

if you want more than 3hp then perhaps upgrade vehicles and start again.

2PHAST

Hmm, 322 hp and 354 lbs of torque is not a joke, neither is 0-60 in under 6 seconds.

SDR

No kidding - one of the most highly regarded vehicles of all time and he calls it a joke? Wow...

Daez_Nutz

Are you serious? I think any true fan of German cars would be able to appreciate what the 500E is and what it represents.

Unless you live your life a quarter mile at a time, Vin.

Cops_h8_me!

It is hardly a performance car to begin... the discussion started on how much the software will give.

IMO for a heavy car, ANY power gain would be worth it.

Then again, I wouldnt consider $390 a major investment. But that is probably because I am not 'still' in a 500E in 2006...Maybe in 1996 I would?

I am sorry if I offended anyone, but the gains for the software would be worth it at this low price AS LONG AS THEY ACTUALLY MAKE THE CLAIMED POWER - this is a whole new question

I think that evosport has some good software (well at least for the C32) but it is more expensive for that one ($1200 or something)

PS. there is a Black Black 500E for sale close by me for $8500 if anyone is interested PM me

Daez_Nutz

Hardly a performance car? You should take a look at its contemporaries and see if that's a fair judgement to make. How many performance cars are still relevant and maintain a devoted following a decade and a half after their release? Whatever you happen to be driving at the moment, how well do you think it will hold up its reputation 15 years from now? Has it secured a place in history? Will journalists still sing its praises and will enthusiasts and collectors still scour the market for clean examples?

Don't apologize if you're going to continue to make backhanded comments. First you call the car a joke, then you go on to insinuate that 500E owners still drive their cars because they cannot afford a newer car. For one thing, that's not necessarily the case. And even if it were, I don't appreciate your elitist attitude. Why are you even trolling this part of the forum, other than to make crass assumptions about people you don't know?

G Man

I am quite happy with my 500E. If I feel the need to go a bit faster, I just jump in my modified C5. It only puts out 473rwhp. That's probably not fast enough for you either though.

2PHAST

Ha, well this is pretty funny. Can't afford a newer car? Well, I chose to drive a 500E. Could I purchase a SL65 tomorrow and pay cash for it? Yes.

Enough said.

Cannoli

Damn!


As for you "Cops Haight Me", you must be a rookie for saying what have said.

500E500

With insensitive comments like that, it would not only be the cops that h8 you ..........!!

AS Design

You betta be careful what tree you bark at, cuz we'll get at you

shadowgriffen

I smell another NOTKTS (cops h8)

Gary, how come you dont mention you own a 500e in the C5t registry? Do you really not care much for it?

EDIT: Nice car

http://64.209.142.240/X2348.htm

AMGDave

OK, so I just gotta ask... which model Hyundai do you drive? The Accent or Sonata? I hope you at least got the optional DOHC engine that comes with two extra squirrels per cylinder.

AMGDave

None of the chips for the M119, M103, or M104 will give you any major power gain. I tried a few different chips in my E500, tested at the dragstrip, and the nicest thing I can say about them is that they don't seem to *lose* any power. I did get a measureable gain (-0.1 sec, +1mph) by installing a 1992 LH module with WOT enrichment. Don't spend $400 on a chip, there's a guy on eBay who sells copies for about $75. Might as well experiment with those instead. I'm currently running the "eBay chip" in my car... my testign shows there's a slight, if any, gain over stock with that chip. I hope to do back to back dyno runs between the two chips eventually.

If there's a chip that will boost a 300CE by 15hp with no other changes (proven via dyno or dragstrip runs), I'll eat my hat.

2PHAST

I was looking into the Ebay chip as well, any more info you can post about it? The seller has squat for information, no dyno runs etc, he can't even tell me if it enables WOT enrichment of it is moves the power band to "simulate" a increase in power.

AMGDave

All I can say is that there was a tiny improvement in dragstrip performance, but small enough that it could have been a change in the wind speed or barometric pressure... less than 1%. The chip definitely cannot enable WOT enrichment on a 93-94 LH module... that's a function of the module itself, and you'll need to get a 1992 module if you don't already have one. That will bump you from 315 to 322 even with the stock chips. The eBay seller doesn't have any dyno charts because he didn't create the chip, he's just selling copies of someone else's chip (which was thought to be a German company). He claims it removes the cold-start shift delay and it does NOT. He also claims it removes the top speed governor and while I seriously doubt that, I haven't yet confirmed it.

My guess is that the power gains (if any) are either at part throttle, or low enough in the RPM range that the gains don't affect a dragstrip run very much. I did a number of runs the same day with both chips, and repeated that a different day, same results both times.

Definitely no smoking gun here with easy power gains. You'll get more by opening up the intake, exhaust, and reducing weight.

2PHAST

Hmm, sounds like the money would be better spent on the 92 LH module, one of these days one will pop up for the right price, $500 for 7 hp at WOT is worse than the performance gains from these chips