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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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Locking/Unlocking Features: How do they work?

Okay guys, bear with me because this is my first car in at least 10 years that didn't have remote keyless entry...with that said here is my question.

How does the locking system work? I read the manual and according to it, I am supposed to be able to lock and unlock all of the doors with the key from either front door or the trunk. I am also supposed to be able to close the windows and sunroof with a turn-and-hold of the key in the driver's side door. ..

...none of that actually works on my car. The only thing that does work is locking/unlocking all doors through the driver's side door. None of the other key features work.

What am I doing wrong? Is there somewhere that it is disabled? I only have one key but it is the master key because it is squared off on the top and it can unlock both the trunk and the glove compartment.

Please help...
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 08:06 AM
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I'm not 100% certain how all of that works, but I thought I'd share my experiences with mine. When I bought it, I could lock or unlock all doors with the key from either the driver's or front passenger's door, but not the trunk. I discovered the 'hold the key' window thing by accident, but it also worked from both front doors and not from the trunk. Unlocking or locking the doors did lock and unlock the trunk, just not the other way around. Well, I had my starter replaced last week and in the process they had the battery disconneted for four hours. When I picked up the car, I took it home and locked the doors from the driver's door with the key as always. But I forgot to get my old starter out of the trunk. So when I unlocked the trunk to get it, all the doors unlocked. I tried it again, and sure enough now I can lock and unlock the doors from the trunk. I tried the window thing from there and it worked too. I called the shop and asked what they did to fix it and the guy said they didn't do anything to it. He explained that the central locking system used a complicated array of switches, relays, and vacuum actuators to do all the stuff it does and that sometimes things get a little out of synch. He figures that having the battery disconnected for a while and then reconnected may have reset a switch or relay that was not playing well with others. It all works now and I love it! I guess what I'm trying to suggest is maybe try disconnecting the battery for a while and see if anyhting resets.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 01:41 AM
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Hmm...that sounds like something I could actually do without screwing too much up. I'll give it a shot in the morning.

Thanks for the info.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 02:09 AM
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holly molly, I did not know. My wagon that im parting does have that neat trick up its sleeve too. So what controls this neat feature and how do I transfer it into my 86.
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Dont quote me on this but the vacum pump and relays are under the passenger floor area.
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 04:02 AM
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My gas tank door locks whenever my car is locked....yes even the gas tank door has its own lock. Did you guys also know that you can keep your trunk locked whenever you unlock or lock your car by locking it through the driver or passenger side door? All you have to do is lock the trunk with the key, using the trunk key hole, and take out the key when its horizontal rather than verticle.

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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Samoan_Ridah
Okay guys, bear with me because this is my first car in at least 10 years that didn't have remote keyless entry...with that said here is my question.

How does the locking system work? I read the manual and according to it, I am supposed to be able to lock and unlock all of the doors with the key from either front door or the trunk. I am also supposed to be able to close the windows and sunroof with a turn-and-hold of the key in the driver's side door. ..

...none of that actually works on my car. The only thing that does work is locking/unlocking all doors through the driver's side door. None of the other key features work.

What am I doing wrong? Is there somewhere that it is disabled? I only have one key but it is the master key because it is squared off on the top and it can unlock both the trunk and the glove compartment.

Please help...
I have a similar problem. All the secondary features of the door locks don't work from my driver's door. Neither did the factory alarm. When I first got the car I couldn't figure out why the alarm would go off sometimes but not others. The driver's door lock has somehow managed to stay connected to the door locks, but not any of the other features. So, I got an aftermarket alarm and now I have keyless entry. I'll take that over controlling the windows any day!
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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I cannot do this no matter how hard try. When I first bought my car both front driver and passanger doorlocks where inopperable. I can only lock/unlock my car using the rear hatch lock.

and perhaps at one point I would have been able to do this, when my rear hatch would electronicaly lock (Te owners know what I'm reffering to) itself but it no longer does that as well.

Short maybe??
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Old Oct 2, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Hmm...sounds like it's a common issue. Hopefully one of our ambitious and courageous members will do some investigation and post a write-up on this.

Matt - I will look into getting an aftermarket alarm installed with keyless entry. Maybe it makes more sense.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:40 PM
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Although this topic is old, let me see if I can shed some light on it.
The system in these cars is based on a vacuumm pump that is located under the carpet under the passenger rear seat. From there, there are yellow tubes that go to all 5 doors (wagon). the front doors and the rear door have actuators and when you lock/unlock the door with the key, the lockin mechanism presses/pulls the actuator arm which gives a signal to the vacuumm. Once initiated the system will lock/unlock all the doors.

Although these systems are a paint and parts are expensive, they generally work for hundreds of thousands of miles. There are two problems that arise:
a. the soleniods/actuators go bad and no longer give the signal to lock/unlock
b. the tubing leaks

sometimes... although i havent had this problem on any of my cars, the pump will go.... i have an extra one in my garage.. but its going to end up on ebay. You can hear the pump whirl when you are in the car. Turn the car off, lift up the rear seat (exposing the floor), the lock the car (sitting inside).

hope this helps
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 03:18 AM
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I'm so glad I stumbled upon this thread! I had no idea holding the key down opened/closed windows
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by PDJ89C
I'm so glad I stumbled upon this thread! I had no idea holding the key down opened/closed windows
haha! not alot of people know this
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
haha! not alot of people know this
Well it doesn't work on my driver's door, *sigh*. But oh well I can just go back to the trunk and close em' while lookin' cool . lol j.k
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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Well it doesn't work on my driver's door, *sigh*. But oh well I can just go back to the trunk and close em' while lookin' cool . lol j.k
mine does the same thing.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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haha! not alot of people know this
Holding the key will close the windows and also the sunroof it you have it.

I am glad to have one of these cars the detail and quality is great.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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I think that only cars with the chrome strip on the door handles are equipped with that convenience feature. I could be wrong.

If you are having issues... change your fuses... thats my new campaign... my car was buggy as hell until I did that. Including my locks, windows and alarm.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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I think that only cars with the chrome strip on the door handles are equipped with that convenience feature. I could be wrong.

If you are having issues... change your fuses... thats my new campaign... my car was buggy as hell until I did that. Including my locks, windows and alarm.
Hey, don't bogart my campaign! jk
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