E-Class (W124) 1984-1995: E 260, E 300, E 320, E 420, E 500 (Includes CE, T, TD models)

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Old 12-12-2006, 01:23 PM
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No intercooler!!!!!

What kind of coolant expansion tanks is that?
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dude, thats ***** out! Please get dyno results and track runs! I am sorry I doubted you
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I'm from Holland and have been looking at a Mosselman twin-turbo kit as well. My 300TE would go from 188 to 292hp! I just dunno if this is a wise thing to do to a 15y/o vehicle with high mileage...
Hey Lancelot, what kind of price are you getting in Holland?
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i cant be the only one who sees that theres no intercooler and thinks "400E lights!!!!"
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Impressive...i want to see Dyno results!
Old 12-13-2006, 09:28 AM
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W124, 320E, 1995.
Originally Posted by neanderthal
i cant be the only one who sees that theres no intercooler and thinks "400E lights!!!!"
No no intercoler, there is a feed and return oil line from the oil pan and back.

As far as the 400E ligths?, I really dont know what are you refering to, the ligths I got in ebay, but I think they are the same sold at porfmanceparts4benz.
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W124, 320E, 1995.
Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
You are the F@CKING MAN!

hey...what did you do with your OEM headlights??
I have my OEM headligths, but the I am afraid the back was damaged when I retrofited an HID kit, and the glass in one of the headligths is cracked that is the main reason why I did the up grade to aftermarket headligths
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I'm amazed that there is no intercooler setup whatsoever. Does it include an ecu-remap, injectors, etc.? I know that this is probably the only turbo kit for W124, but $6500+international shipping, I really would have expected more.
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W124, 320E, 1995.
Originally Posted by medici78
I'm amazed that there is no intercooler setup whatsoever. Does it include an ecu-remap, injectors, etc.? I know that this is probably the only turbo kit for W124, but $6500+international shipping, I really would have expected more.

No, nothing more than the Turbos (2) exhaust manifolds, Air Instakes, oil system and, fuel pressure regulator.

I will have to do by my self an injector upgrade, Ecu, remap, and intercooler, but this are additional and shall not interfere with the promised HP and Torq gains.....Will see, I thinck I will have the car dynoed today
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WOw I wish I could afford to do that.
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not stock.
wow, that is one VERY expensive turbo kit..... YOU DEFF> need some kind "cooling: the air charger..... I will imagine this is a "low boost" kit since all your internals are STOCK, so I would look into a "water/methanol" injection kit instead of an intercooler.... I would also look into finding a better way of locating the air filters, instead of having them right next to the hot turbos.... you may also want to consider CERAMIC COATING the HOT part of the turbos and the exhaust manifolds....this will DRAMATICALLY lower under-hood temps. and pro long the life of your turbos, engine, and probably even add power.

on a side note.... good job on going this route. very very cool.
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W124, 320E, 1995.
Originally Posted by OJwerks
wow, that is one VERY expensive turbo kit..... YOU DEFF> need some kind "cooling: the air charger..... I will imagine this is a "low boost" kit since all your internals are STOCK, so I would look into a "water/methanol" injection kit instead of an intercooler.... I would also look into finding a better way of locating the air filters, instead of having them right next to the hot turbos.... you may also want to consider CERAMIC COATING the HOT part of the turbos and the exhaust manifolds....this will DRAMATICALLY lower under-hood temps. and pro long the life of your turbos, engine, and probably even add power.

on a side note.... good job on going this route. very very cool.
I am looking in to different ways, of intercoolers, but it seems like I need to work more in fuel management now, it seems that is to rich, rigth now I am doing tests, and dyno runs.

Shall you have any reliable info about cooling systems please letme know, I think I will need to aproach rentech, to maximaze the turbo benefits.
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I guess this was cheap then?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1991-MERCEDES-300E-24-Twin-Turbo-AMG
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mmmm... teh sex
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W124, 320E, 1995.
I did the 1st dyno test yesterday, here are some images, I will try once more to up load the charts, once I get them scaned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_7C4ADzfoM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_7C4ADzfoM
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You don't necessarilly need to approach an M-B tuner like Renntech, so much as an experienced fabricator. You may lose some response with all the extra piping involved to add an intercooler, but considering you don't have an intercooler at all, I can only imagine it will add power as the intake charge will be cooler than it is with straight piping.
The problem with the W124 is you really don't have much room to add an intercooler with out, at least, adding a bumper with enough area to fit it.
I am really surprised that that turbos, manifolds, intake pipe and fpr is all you get for $6500. It just looks way too simply engineered. Let us know how the dyno goes.
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Originally Posted by cap'n jasper
Man, that car would've sold for a lot more in the US!!
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Originally Posted by Bigpete123
Man, that car would've sold for a lot more in the US!!
No kidding,,, s'almost worth going to the trouble of importing it. Sometimes it goes the other way though,,, a good 93-95 w124 cabriolet can bring $35,000 in the UK at today's exchange rate.
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Interesting video, but why dont u put the results? write them here, no need of chart.
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not stock.
Originally Posted by archeryblackdog
I am looking in to different ways, of intercoolers, but it seems like I need to work more in fuel management now, it seems that is to rich, rigth now I am doing tests, and dyno runs.

Shall you have any reliable info about cooling systems please letme know, I think I will need to aproach rentech, to maximaze the turbo benefits.
since your running this at "low boost" (by the way, how much are you actually boosting?)

I would approach this the following way..... save the hassle of having to "re-engineer" a $6500 kit, by having to add extra piping, custom intercooler, etc... And simply add a Water/methanol injection kit, all this does is inject a 50/50 mix of water & methanol into your throttle body to dramatically decrees intake temperatures, & it is boost-dependant activated, so it will only funtion when the car is "on boost"... the kit comes with a water reservoir, simillar to that of your wind-shiel wipers in which you poor the mix...... you normally have to fill it up about 1 or 2 times a month (depending on how much and long you run the car)... this is seen very often on supercharged cars, & on turbo cars running high compression or lots & lots of boost, very common on VWs... the source I would recommend for a system like this is WolfCars, located in Miami FL.. these guys are German heads... & boost junkies, so I think they could help you out alot. Here is their contact info:

Wolfcars Parts Tuning
8568 NW 64 St
Miami, FL, 33166
t: (305) 593-8162 - f: (305) 593-8895

call them and explain to them your situation, & ask them about the water-methanol kit....... also a good side of this is that it will probably cost you half as much as what a custom intercooler setup would.

btw, is your car "not" running a Blow Off valve???
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W124, 320E, 1995.
Originally Posted by OJwerks
since your running this at "low boost" (by the way, how much are you actually boosting?)

I would approach this the following way..... save the hassle of having to "re-engineer" a $6500 kit, by having to add extra piping, custom intercooler, etc... And simply add a Water/methanol injection kit, all this does is inject a 50/50 mix of water & methanol into your throttle body to dramatically decrees intake temperatures, & it is boost-dependant activated, so it will only funtion when the car is "on boost"... the kit comes with a water reservoir, simillar to that of your wind-shiel wipers in which you poor the mix...... you normally have to fill it up about 1 or 2 times a month (depending on how much and long you run the car)... this is seen very often on supercharged cars, & on turbo cars running high compression or lots & lots of boost, very common on VWs... the source I would recommend for a system like this is WolfCars, located in Miami FL.. these guys are German heads... & boost junkies, so I think they could help you out alot. Here is their contact info:

Wolfcars Parts Tuning
8568 NW 64 St
Miami, FL, 33166
t: (305) 593-8162 - f: (305) 593-8895

call them and explain to them your situation, & ask them about the water-methanol kit....... also a good side of this is that it will probably cost you half as much as what a custom intercooler setup would.

btw, is your car "not" running a Blow Off valve???
Thanks for your Input I will give them a call today!! to anwser your questions my set up only feeds 6 PSI so is low boost, on the other end running such low boost, offcourse it has blow off valves, that operate almost permantly to exhaust the exess boost.
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Man, that car would've sold for a lot more in the US!!
I know what you mean.I went out and kicked my car...I dont think that was the selling price...It said auction was ended early for a buy it now price.
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£2250 was the buy it now price. Cheap but then old cars sell for much less here than the US.
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not stock.
Originally Posted by archeryblackdog
Thanks for your Input I will give them a call today!! to anwser your questions my set up only feeds 6 PSI so is low boost, on the other end running such low boost, offcourse it has blow off valves, that operate almost permantly to exhaust the exess boost.
just wondering....did you get a hold of them?
btw, what exhaust setup are you running with these turbos???

If it were me, I would run a 2.5" dual system all the way back with one center & rear Magnaflow dual in/out mufflers..... no cats & custom tips.


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