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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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next newMBie question.....Diff swap?

After having logged a few miles piloting the 420, I have discovered that the car is a bit sleepy up to about 50-60 mph. But, from those speeds the thing starts to pull.....HARD! Before I know it the car could well be going 160 mph if I had the desire to keep in it. Uh oh.

Obviously, the car is tuned for high speed blasts typical of an romp on the autobahn. Great for Hockenheim, not so much for Glendale, AZ. So then I get to thinking.....

....in the MB world, is there such a thing as a differential swap or at least a gearset swap that would shift some of the bias to improve 0-60 mph times and maybe take away a bit of the top end. Of course, the key here is to try and keep the majority of the drivability and efficiency as the stock setup, but just shift the envalope a bit. I would prefer to not have the engine turning 800 rpm faster in all driving situations if possible...and I think I would be OK by swapping the diff. and leaving the trans. as-is...yes/no?

Any tried this with any success? TIA.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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there is a thread on this specific topic, just do a search. It was fairly recently.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mgw_300e
there is a thread on this specific topic, just do a search. It was fairly recently.
yeah, I was afraid someone was going to gong me with a "do a search you dork" reply.

I'll search now....thanks.
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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i didn't mean it that way...
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Didn't someone discover the 400SEL gearing was higher and gave better acceleration?
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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did you find it?
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 11:59 PM
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no. W140 300SE will give the best ratio for drag racing.

do a search
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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ok, here is what you may be looking for...
http://www.tom.actionfit.com/2_82_Differental_Swap.html
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by moner
ok, here is what you may be looking for...
http://www.tom.actionfit.com/2_82_Differental_Swap.html
Simply put: the best possible reply I could have EVER hoped for. Thanks for that. I will say this however....I don't know if his reported gains are worth the effort and expense. The car drives so nice as is, I expect I will likely leave it as-is.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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I'm doing a swap, likely next week.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Eliot
I'm doing a swap, likely next week.
well make sure you keep us up to date on all the gory details! i want pictures and details!!! and you better let us know how it drives after...
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Will do. I'm also swapping in the Sportline Suspension (Bushings/Struts/Springs).
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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Will do. I'm also swapping in the Sportline Suspension (Bushings/Struts/Springs).
Did you buy the suspension pieces from Merc., aftermarket or are they coming off a donor car?
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Parts came from Rusty at BuyMBParts.com. Cost ran about 1600 w/o shipping. My mechanic is sourcing a used differential for the swap.

The Sportline E420 was not sold outside of Europe. I looked for but couldn't get the Steering Box that it was fitted with(tightest of the W124s.) It also came (as all the Euro 400s/420s did) with a 2.65 geared differential. Steering wheel was changed for the standard Sportline version. Those are still around for purchase but they will run 1000 USD (so I postponed that for a later date).

Forgot to mention that the kit also includes stiffer swaybars (aka Torsion Bars).

Last edited by Eliot; Nov 28, 2006 at 04:34 PM.
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Can you get dyons and other results on your swap?
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Saijin_Naib
Can you get dyons and other results on your swap?
HP won't change. I don't know where the nearest track is to clock the car before and after. I'll ask my mechanic.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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Tru. Im an ***, track results would be better Im thinking diff swap and engine swap cause im reading the engine swap thread lol
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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Looking forward to your results. I'm toying with this idea as well as the suspension upgrade and the 16" stock wheels that are still available.
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