Need advise, looking at CE's...
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Need advise, looking at CE's...
Since my 300E sedan was wrecked, I am considering buying a CE to transfer all the performance parts and RENNTech 3.6 engine.
I know the CE is shorter, has a 24 valve head for 217hp, and separate rear seats.
Is there a wheelbase or weight difference? Are the transmissions and differential the same as the sedan? Are there "better" years? What are the production numbers?
I know the CE is shorter, has a 24 valve head for 217hp, and separate rear seats.
Is there a wheelbase or weight difference? Are the transmissions and differential the same as the sedan? Are there "better" years? What are the production numbers?
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Since my 300E sedan was wrecked, I am considering buying a CE to transfer all the performance parts and RENNTech 3.6 engine.
I know the CE is shorter, has a 24 valve head for 217hp, and separate rear seats.
Is there a wheelbase or weight difference? Are the transmissions and differential the same as the sedan? Are there "better" years? What are the production numbers?
I know the CE is shorter, has a 24 valve head for 217hp, and separate rear seats.
Is there a wheelbase or weight difference? Are the transmissions and differential the same as the sedan? Are there "better" years? What are the production numbers?
If you are installing your 3.6 M104, then avoid the 1988-1990 with the M103.
The M103-12V has a much less sophisticated engine management system.
The later models will use the same M104-24V as your 3.6.
Wheelbase about 2" shorter, Same transmission and differential.
You might want to try to find a "Sportline" version which has a more performance oriented suspension that includes larger sway bars, peformance shocks and shorter springs.
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If you are installing your 3.6 M104, then avoid the 1988-1990 with the M103.
The M103-12V has a much less sophisticated engine management system.
The later models will use the same M104-24V as your 3.6.
Wheelbase about 2" shorter, Same transmission and differential.
You might want to try to find a "Sportline" version which has a more performance oriented suspension that includes larger sway bars, peformance shocks and shorter springs.
The M103-12V has a much less sophisticated engine management system.
The later models will use the same M104-24V as your 3.6.
Wheelbase about 2" shorter, Same transmission and differential.
You might want to try to find a "Sportline" version which has a more performance oriented suspension that includes larger sway bars, peformance shocks and shorter springs.
This would save you from having to upgrade suspension, which I am now finding out is a pain in the ***.
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Even better, that motor would be great in my 94 convertable, If you send it over I will let you drive it when it is finished 
Seriously, a 93-95 convertable with that motor would be a great sleeper car, You would want to make some suspension upgrades, there were a few sportline convertable's made, but they are very very hard to find. Most of these cars have realtively low miles as well so the rest of the car, i.e transmissions, are usually in great shape.
Seriously, a 93-95 convertable with that motor would be a great sleeper car, You would want to make some suspension upgrades, there were a few sportline convertable's made, but they are very very hard to find. Most of these cars have realtively low miles as well so the rest of the car, i.e transmissions, are usually in great shape.
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If you are installing your 3.6 M104, then avoid the 1988-1990 with the M103.
The M103-12V has a much less sophisticated engine management system.
The later models will use the same M104-24V as your 3.6.
Wheelbase about 2" shorter, Same transmission and differential.
You might want to try to find a "Sportline" version which has a more performance oriented suspension that includes larger sway bars, peformance shocks and shorter springs.
The M103-12V has a much less sophisticated engine management system.
The later models will use the same M104-24V as your 3.6.
Wheelbase about 2" shorter, Same transmission and differential.
You might want to try to find a "Sportline" version which has a more performance oriented suspension that includes larger sway bars, peformance shocks and shorter springs.
All,
My intent is to salvage the performance parts on my wreck but if the CE's 217hp is sufficient and I find a clean upgraded example, maybe I'll just part out or sell mine complete. I still need to get a decent settlement from the insurance company...
Thanks!
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Even better, that motor would be great in my 94 convertable, If you send it over I will let you drive it when it is finished
Seriously, a 93-95 convertable with that motor would be a great sleeper car, You would want to make some suspension upgrades, there were a few sportline convertable's made, but they are very very hard to find. Most of these cars have realtively low miles as well so the rest of the car, i.e transmissions, are usually in great shape.
Seriously, a 93-95 convertable with that motor would be a great sleeper car, You would want to make some suspension upgrades, there were a few sportline convertable's made, but they are very very hard to find. Most of these cars have realtively low miles as well so the rest of the car, i.e transmissions, are usually in great shape.
There is a full RENNTech conversion convertible selling for $38k in NY.
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Actually my 3.6 is 103 based. How much better is the engine management for the 104?
All,
My intent is to salvage the performance parts on my wreck but if the CE's 217hp is sufficient and I find a clean upgraded example, maybe I'll just part out or sell mine complete. I still need to get a decent settlement from the insurance company...
Thanks!
All,
My intent is to salvage the performance parts on my wreck but if the CE's 217hp is sufficient and I find a clean upgraded example, maybe I'll just part out or sell mine complete. I still need to get a decent settlement from the insurance company...
Thanks!
M103 with the KE-Jetronic fuel injection has minimal engine management.
That would be the best situation for an engine swap.
The M104 -24V has a more computerized engine management.
If you find a clean M104, you'll probably find that the stock performance isn't too shabby
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Why dont you just fix that car and save yourself a bunch of headaches & money.I have some friends that would have that thing looking brand new.The money you save can go on tt system or something special for the wife.
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The insurance company is totaling it because their estimate is lower than what the body shop will fix it for. I think $7k vs 8 or 9k. They would have to weld a rear clip. Plus I don't want a repaired and devalued car...
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I added the OE Sportline suspension on my '91 300CE...what are you having trouble with? Still tight after 5 years! PM me if you want to come check it out....my office is in Roswell.
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Since my 300E sedan was wrecked, I am considering buying a CE to transfer all the performance parts and RENNTech 3.6 engine.
I know the CE is shorter, has a 24 valve head for 217hp, and separate rear seats.
Is there a wheelbase or weight difference? Are the transmissions and differential the same as the sedan? Are there "better" years? What are the production numbers?
I know the CE is shorter, has a 24 valve head for 217hp, and separate rear seats.
Is there a wheelbase or weight difference? Are the transmissions and differential the same as the sedan? Are there "better" years? What are the production numbers?
Last edited by Chappy; Mar 9, 2007 at 12:23 PM.
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part that sucker out and buy a 500E
Last edited by bjay51d; Mar 9, 2007 at 12:55 PM.
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As for vandalism.. that is why I keep it bone-stock and never leave anything of value in the passenger compartment. Knock on wood, no problems to date.
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not much info posted so you need to email him...
