E-Class (W124) 1984-1995: E 260, E 300, E 320, E 420, E 500 (Includes CE, T, TD models)

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Hey everyone, I currently own a 1986 300E, it was my baby up until it starting acting like a little ho. I took it in a while back about 2 months ago for a transmission fluid change. I bought the car from someone and did not know how long the fuid had been in there for. So I took her in and had no transmission problems before hand, only thing was a rear jerk. Well after i change it, she started acting weird, shifting at werid times and acting up, well i took her on the freeway thinking the fluid just needed to get in there. So i took her and after that had no problems, well the problems are back, and it doesnt look like they are going away. What happens now is the eingine will start off and not shift. Sometimes not even out of second gear, it will keep going and going(climbing RPM's). Yesterday I was driving on a normal street and was going about like 45 and it wasn't shifting, while in drive it shifted itself into Nuteral. The car was in "D" and was actually in Nuteral. So when i tried accelerating it just sounded like I was revving it and felt that way too. I had told the mechanic a while back about this when they first came up, but everytime I took it to him it worked fine. He even told me "next time it acts up make it appointment so it will stop" he said scince the rear jerk was going on it might be making the others gears bad and the trani might be on its way out. BUT THIS **** WAS WORKING FINE BEFORE HE CHANGED THE FLUID!! >_< WTF!!!!! I have no idea what is causing this I checked the fluid it seems like there is more than there should be like its overfilled but i doubt thats why its doing this. -sigh- anybody have any suggestions? Thanks for reading.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DMCJordaan
Hey everyone, I currently own a 1986 300E, it was my baby up until it starting acting like a little ho. I took it in a while back about 2 months ago for a transmission fluid change. I bought the car from .......
Hey Jordan, I was talking to my cousin a few minutes ago before I went to buy some oil for my car and we were talking about the tranny and tranny fluid. I mentioned I wanted to get the fluid changed (Tranny fluid) and he asked if it's ever been changed before, I said "no" and he said to never perform a change. Since the parts have already "evolved to work" if you say with the tranny, etc. Don't know if this is true or not, but can someone confirm this? I really wanted to change it but this scared me now, .
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Hey Jordan, I was talking to my cousin a few minutes ago before I went to buy some oil for my car and we were talking about the tranny and tranny fluid. I mentioned I wanted to get the fluid changed (Tranny fluid) and he asked if it's ever been changed before, I said "no" and he said to never perform a change. Since the parts have already "evolved to work" if you say with the tranny, etc. Don't know if this is true or not, but can someone confirm this? I really wanted to change it but this scared me now, .
I have heard this from others too, but do not know if it is true.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Never change the trans fluid? Thats odd... its part of the service schedule.
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Eliot
Never change the trans fluid? Thats odd... its part of the service schedule.
YES IT IS TRUE if fluid too old and smells like enginey leave it
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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My advise is if the fluid and filter needs changed .....change it. You will only prevent more wear and tear with a service. If something fails afterwards you needed a transmission anyway. You will not damage anything with clean fluid and a new filter that wasn't damaged to begin with.

To DMCJordaan: I would disconnect the kickdown cable. It should short shift every time. If not you need a transmission. Make sure the cable pulls in and out freely without binding. Also make sure the kickdown switch is not being depressed by carpeting, floormats, etc.

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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 11:27 PM
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I have heard this from others too, but do not know if it is true.

It's not. It's BS.

It's 2007 and every 20+ year old Mercedes W124 transmission is now having problems, has already had them, or will soon. NONE of these problems are fixed by changing or not changing fluid or replacing a fuse--those are fantasies and wishful thinking.

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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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A fluid change can worsen the symptoms of a already failing auto trans. I have seen it happen. Consider this, the clutches are smoked with very little fiber material left on the disc. Where is the fiber that was there? Its in little tiny pieces suspended in the fluid. Thus, when you change the burned fluid out goes the rest of the clutch material, and the trans goes right over the edge.

If this happens, the trans was smoked anyway. However, I have had them come in the shop driving with symptoms, changed the burned fluid and seen the slipping get much worse from only a fluid change.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Gbait, the 124 Mercedes transmission has a filter, so if there were any “fibers” generated by transmission wear, they would be trapped in the filter! “Burned” fluid with “suspended fibers” does not maintain transmission function. “Slippage” does not get worse by changing the “burnt” fluid to the recommended new fluid and filter.

DMC, I think you need a mechanic familiar with Mercedes. Did he drain the fluid from both the trans pan AND the torque converter?? Replace the filter? Use quality fluid? Is the vacuum line loose or disconnected by mistake? Are the shifter bushings gone?

JDW, the MB factory service schedule for the 124 cars is replacing the fluid and filter every 30K miles. And lovebenz, totally wrong dude.
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Originally Posted by ds190
Gbait, the 124 Mercedes transmission has a filter, so if there were any “fibers” generated by transmission wear, they would be trapped in the filter! “Burned” fluid with “suspended fibers” does not maintain transmission function. “Slippage” does not get worse by changing the “burnt” fluid to the recommended new fluid and filter.

DMC, I think you need a mechanic familiar with Mercedes. Did he drain the fluid from both the trans pan AND the torque converter?? Replace the filter? Use quality fluid? Is the vacuum line loose or disconnected by mistake? Are the shifter bushings gone?

JDW, the MB factory service schedule for the 124 cars is replacing the fluid and filter every 30K miles. And lovebenz, totally wrong dude.
The filter may change the analysis. HOwever, some auto trans have only a screen, not a filter. I am a former service manager (10 yrs ago), and I have seen this happen in the shop. I have never seen this happen on a Benz for the record.
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