My 500E RWR Supertouring.
11-03-2007, 05:23 PM
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1988 300E
Carbon Roof
Now that you have the mold made up, what would you charge me in USD to supply another carbon roof? Could you check into that for me? It would work nicely for my current project. Thanks!
11-16-2007, 04:52 PM
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89 300TE, and 68 280sel
This is an amazing process and the craftsmanship is outstanding, but my one gripe is that you butchered a perfectly good 500E when for all of the deconstructing you are doing to the car, you could have used a lowly 230E
11-19-2007, 01:33 AM
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C43 T AMG -98, 500E RWR -91
Well... it was not my mening too go this far... it just happend... then I needed the 500E fenders to do ´the molding frome... but some times I which that I have strated frome a not so nive car...
12-01-2007, 12:15 PM
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W124 E36T AMG; W124 500E
I know one guy who did custom front struts and a full Heim-joint rear with a Ford Thunderbird LSD.
Here's the link:
http://www.mercedesshop.com/shopforu...29#post1135029
How about fusing the front & rear suspension from a Corvette ?
:-) neil
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12-01-2007, 12:32 PM
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W124 E36T AMG; W124 500E
more on the suspension
the diff is from a 92' T'Bird and is a 8.8", has a 3.55 gear and a torsen worm gear limited slip. Each axle in the car is fabbed from Spicer parts and is the same as a driveshaft in a one ton truck. Also has a one piece shaft, not the MB two piece. There are NO CV joints to tend with!! I used the OE subframe and adapted in the diff to use the five link arms and rear hubs. They now have 12" X 1.25" NASCAR rear rotors and Wilwood calipers on it and retained the MB emergency brake! This car will stop now with those rears and the 13"X1.25" fronts and Panoz calipers.
re: Aluminum hub links....
Replaced the sloppy oe arms with swaged aluminum from a company in Olathe KS called Rod End Supply. The heims are 1/2" for the links side and 5/8" into the aluminum bars. Drilled out the subframe to 1/2" and on the adjustable holes, welded in a steel plate to make them solid with a 1/2" hole. The OE steel lower arm is still there but may make my own (adjustable).
For the rear axles I removed the stub axles from the hub assy. Put the stubs into a lathe and cut off the CV section. Then welded in a piece of driveshaft tubing about one inch long. Next welded in a Spicer Ujoint for a driveshaft and connected a 1350 U joint onto it. Then made shafts from a driveshaft sliding spline...male and female placing the male section outboard with another short section of shaft about 10" long.
The female side is attached to the diff joint with another 1350 joint. These joints are w/o a lube fitting so much stronger.
Just measure four times and cut/weld once!!
re: Aluminum hub links....
Replaced the sloppy oe arms with swaged aluminum from a company in Olathe KS called Rod End Supply. The heims are 1/2" for the links side and 5/8" into the aluminum bars. Drilled out the subframe to 1/2" and on the adjustable holes, welded in a steel plate to make them solid with a 1/2" hole. The OE steel lower arm is still there but may make my own (adjustable).
For the rear axles I removed the stub axles from the hub assy. Put the stubs into a lathe and cut off the CV section. Then welded in a piece of driveshaft tubing about one inch long. Next welded in a Spicer Ujoint for a driveshaft and connected a 1350 U joint onto it. Then made shafts from a driveshaft sliding spline...male and female placing the male section outboard with another short section of shaft about 10" long.
The female side is attached to the diff joint with another 1350 joint. These joints are w/o a lube fitting so much stronger.
Just measure four times and cut/weld once!!
12-01-2007, 12:33 PM
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W124 E36T AMG; W124 500E
QuickTime movie of Toby's car at Roebling Road.
Right-click and Save:
http://www.silcom.com/~neilv/Toby-190E.mov
:-) neil
Right-click and Save:
http://www.silcom.com/~neilv/Toby-190E.mov
:-) neil
12-01-2007, 01:08 PM
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I would have to disagree with you for the following reasons. Mainly, the transmission tunnel and engine bay are ready for any big upgrades, where the 200/230E requires fabricating so much stuff a la 87 AMG HAMMER. And All the body pieces are ready for the 500E fenders. If you took a 400E it would be some work, which I am sure is capable in this case, to put on 500E quarter pannels, and then widen them.
I understand also that sometimes projects just get carried away as they did in this case.
12-01-2007, 05:45 PM
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89 300TE, and 68 280sel
I would have to disagree with you for the following reasons. Mainly, the transmission tunnel and engine bay are ready for any big upgrades, where the 200/230E requires fabricating so much stuff a la 87 AMG HAMMER. And All the body pieces are ready for the 500E fenders. If you took a 400E it would be some work, which I am sure is capable in this case, to put on 500E quarter pannels, and then widen them.
I understand also that sometimes projects just get carried away as they did in this case.
I understand also that sometimes projects just get carried away as they did in this case.
12-01-2007, 08:52 PM
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Your telling me that these craftsmen could not fab a new trans tunnel? or weld in a new subframe member? It looks like there will be about 25% of the original car left when this amazing project is finished, and even less than that percent will be original 500E. I love this project, but I just hate to see a good stock uber-benz be chopped when a worn out econo model could have been used to obtain the same results.
Obviously, he is clearly capable of that kind of work, as am I.
However, I dont think it was his intention to do all this work to his 500E, as he has stated. But, Nonetheless, he is already this far along, it would be backwards productive to do it to a 200E/230E.
Regards.
12-02-2007, 10:38 AM
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1970 300SEL 6.3 , and a couple younger MB's.
Example : a converted 230E with 500E mechanical parts will not be allowed in a 3.0L + class.
