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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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94-95 MBZ W124 (E320/420) vs 93-95 Lexus GS300

Hey guys. Just wondering if any of you considered and compared an E320/E420 versus a Lexus GS300 when you were shopping for your car? What made you decide to get what you have? I'm in that dilemma now... Thanks in advance.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Hey guys. Just wondering if any of you considered and compared an E320/E420 versus a Lexus GS300 when you were shopping for your car? What made you decide to get what you have? I'm in that dilemma now... Thanks in advance.
That's a tough choice.

I have always been a fan of the GS (until they decided to go ala w210 healights, since lexus is always hanging of MB's *******) since it was the only "different" lexus on the road, but I wouldn't say it has the "class" and timeless look of the w124.

although certainly much cheaper to maintain (toyota) but I would say the w124 is just as reliable.
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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i thought about it, i was debating between a gs 300, 1999+ acura rl, e39 bmw, and the w124. i ended up buying the benz because this has een a car i have always liked and wanted, but if it wasn't for that, i would have gone with one of the japanese choices. the gs is nice though... RWD, supra motor... lots of potential!
also, the quad headlights were taken from SC styling cues more so than w210...
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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The "cutting-edge" lexus is always a step behind an MB.

They are reasonable facsimiles without the prestige. Reminds me of a knock off Breitling haha
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Old Oct 3, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ZedStyle
i thought about it, i was debating between a gs 300, 1999+ acura rl, e39 bmw, and the w124. i ended up buying the benz because this has een a car i have always liked and wanted, but if it wasn't for that, i would have gone with one of the japanese choices. the gs is nice though... RWD, supra motor... lots of potential!
also, the quad headlights were taken from SC styling cues more so than w210...
Thanks for the input guys! Yup, definitely a tough choice. This is what I had in mind and very fine examples of the offering from the other camp...
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Old Oct 7, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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I faced the same choice: Lexus doesn't make a wagon and I really like the ride of the E320. We'll see, if the things I fixed, stay fixed.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 03:07 AM
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Lexus. I have a '94 E320 and I am getting tired of dumping money in it just to keep everything working right. Theis is BTW my 3rd and last Benz. They need to get their **** together in the quality department before I consider buying another Benz.
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
That's a tough choice.

but I would say the w124 is just as reliable.
cmon man what you been smoking?
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The "cutting-edge" lexus is always a step behind an MB.

They are reasonable facsimiles without the prestige. Reminds me of a knock off Breitling haha

Hey! I have a knock off Breitling...and sure enough it is broken
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Old Oct 8, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TheEngineer
I faced the same choice: Lexus doesn't make a wagon and I really like the ride of the E320. We'll see, if the things I fixed, stay fixed.
didn'tt hey have an is 300 wagon for a bit? 'twas ugly though...
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bjay51d
cmon man what you been smoking?
In four years ownership, almost five of daily driving

1. battery
2. alternator
3. starter

I'd say for a 19 year old car with 241K, that's pretty damn reliable
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ZedStyle
didn'tt hey have an is 300 wagon for a bit? 'twas ugly though...
The IS Sportwagon was too small. Other than an SUV (my wife already has a Lexus RX330), no decent-sized wagon was offered.

I like the lines of the W124 Estate.
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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Some of the wagons look SICK. IN the picture thread, Zomg...
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Old Oct 9, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
In four years ownership, almost five of daily driving

1. battery
2. alternator
3. starter

I'd say for a 19 year old car with 241K, that's pretty damn reliable
maybe you got the one that was put together right.If you look at the threads you can see that everyone seems to have the same problems.tranny,rough idle, headgasket,wire harness,a/c system all within 100,000 miles.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:50 AM
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cmon man what you been smoking?
I guess reliability is in the eye of the beholder. I would give it a 4 out of 10 for reliability. What other car can you spend as much on repairs every 3 years as you did to purchase it?
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
In four years ownership, almost five of daily driving

1. battery
2. alternator
3. starter

I'd say for a 19 year old car with 241K, that's pretty damn reliable
Who can argue with that? If only your experience was typical.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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I do recall bjay's times with his car, and learned a couple things about him and his car.

1. He's Ballin', to spend that much on repairs on a car is
2. His car was straight up built by the factory, but not by engineers, but by the salvadorian cleaners that illegaly work there

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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I guess reliability is in the eye of the beholder. I would give it a 4 out of 10 for reliability. What other car can you spend as much on repairs every 3 years as you did to purchase it?

depends on how much you bought it for?
if your car was not taken care of properly by the previous owner, no ***** it will have problems. the newest car in this forum is 12 years old, and probably has over 100k miles. if you want cheap repairs for a used car that's over ten years old, why the hell would anyone buy a mercedes? and then act like it's the car's fault?
anyway, i'm with shadow, only thing in the last two years was that i had to change the battery, which was original to the car.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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First of all I prefer lexus over MB. BUT I don't like that model GS because it's slow as hell. I test drove it but man I think a 4 cyl camry can keep up with it. I guess it looks good if you do it VIP style but I'd choose benz. Of course lexus is more reliable(if maintained well). Either way you can't lose. Just make sure whatever you buy has all service records especially the benz
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
I do recall bjay's times with his car, and learned a couple things about him and his car.

1. He's Ballin', to spend that much on repairs on a car is
2. His car was straight up built by the factory, but not by engineers, but by the salvadorian cleaners that illegaly work there

Im not ballin by any means if I were I would still have my money pit.I really spent about 2.5gs on a car that I was planning on keeping for a minute.Thats little money compared to the guys that rebuilt trannies and head gaskets & wire harness.ill be the first to admit I fell into that well *I spent this much might as well go all the way with it* way of thinking.I miss that car alot but glad its gone.I no longer worry about the big typical BM problems .

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Originally Posted by ZedStyle
depends on how much you bought it for?
if your car was not taken care of properly by the previous owner, no ***** it will have problems. the newest car in this forum is 12 years old, and probably has over 100k miles. if you want cheap repairs for a used car that's over ten years old, why the hell would anyone buy a mercedes? and then act like it's the car's fault?
anyway, i'm with shadow, only thing in the last two years was that i had to change the battery, which was original to the car.
I dont mind repairing my vehicles as long as it doesnt have a laundry list of thing that need to be fixed.With more expensive typical repairs on the horizon.I wish I had a positive experience with my car like you and shadow.i actually did get her running pretty good and was loving it for a minute but money got tight and had to decide on benz quality or honda reliability.funny how my honda had almost 100,000 more miles on it than the benz and it still more sensible to keep.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by shadowgriffen
In four years ownership, almost five of daily driving

1. battery
2. alternator
3. starter

I'd say for a 19 year old car with 241K, that's pretty damn reliable
i heard your car never leaves the car port
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It doesn't. It's JBWelded in place.
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It doesn't. It's JBWelded in place.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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haha! Whatever *****! I wish my car stayed in there, this wouldn't have happened last night

It looks OK because I spent a good two hours banging the grill out, and putting the lights back on with Fokin duct tape.

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