Time to send it off - my 1987 w124 3.2 AMG
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500E Signal Rot
I would have to say served on this one!
Don't bring me into this my friend 2PHAST, oh by the way I did sell the car for 10K thankyou. And 2 my car got more looks at a local car gathering then the 500E I was parked next too. I remember everyone hating on my car when I first posted. I do have to say POS it is a damn shame about the grill. Umm does the front spoiler have an AMG stamp?
Don't bring me into this my friend 2PHAST, oh by the way I did sell the car for 10K thankyou. And 2 my car got more looks at a local car gathering then the 500E I was parked next too. I remember everyone hating on my car when I first posted. I do have to say POS it is a damn shame about the grill. Umm does the front spoiler have an AMG stamp?
I would of liked to purchase your car, but we couldn't arrive at a price. If your car had a 3.2l M104 or 3.4l M104, it would be in my garage right now, but with the stock M104 motor, I couldn't justify paying 10k for it.
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Wow, not quite sure where to start with all this misinformation you have, so I’ll simply state:
1) I have personally spoken to Richard Buxbaum (head of AMG of NA) and Hartmut Fehyl on many occasions. The information I get from them is priceless, and a lot of my knowledge was gained by talking to the two guys who started and ran the company. I’ve asked them many detailed questions over the past two years, including the two you posed. These quotes are directly from the emails I have with Hartmut regarding the 3.2 AMG:
(a) regarding fiberglass vs. polyurethane – “We had both, the early version were some fiberglass and later were made in PU, some of those fiberglass ones made it to the US, but not many. However, all the copies were made in fiberglass. If I look at it in person, I can tell the two fiberglass ones apart, but not on a picture.”
(b) regarding the AMG stickers – “At one point we used some silver stickers on the valve cover pointing out the HP and the different spark plugs we used but not consistently.”
2) Secondly, it was Richard who tipped me off about a 1983 500SL AMG for sale a couple of years ago. I bought that car, and it’s the only AMG I’ve ever seen that has the original AMG build documents, price sheets, and bill of sale with the VIN for that particular SL on each page. In other words, it is a real AMG as backed with the original AMG documents. That car has the engine upgrades but does not have any AMG stickers under the hood. It has limited slip, by the way, which also shows up as an item and price on the build sheet.
3) This AMG Tech Guide was published in late 1987/early 1988 by AMG of North America; I scanned it for your education. Notice the words “AMG Aero 8x17” on page 29 and “3.27 (Ltd slip)" on page 30 for the w124:
Rikk ain't as smart as he thinks he is.
1) I have personally spoken to Richard Buxbaum (head of AMG of NA) and Hartmut Fehyl on many occasions. The information I get from them is priceless, and a lot of my knowledge was gained by talking to the two guys who started and ran the company. I’ve asked them many detailed questions over the past two years, including the two you posed. These quotes are directly from the emails I have with Hartmut regarding the 3.2 AMG:
(a) regarding fiberglass vs. polyurethane – “We had both, the early version were some fiberglass and later were made in PU, some of those fiberglass ones made it to the US, but not many. However, all the copies were made in fiberglass. If I look at it in person, I can tell the two fiberglass ones apart, but not on a picture.”
(b) regarding the AMG stickers – “At one point we used some silver stickers on the valve cover pointing out the HP and the different spark plugs we used but not consistently.”
2) Secondly, it was Richard who tipped me off about a 1983 500SL AMG for sale a couple of years ago. I bought that car, and it’s the only AMG I’ve ever seen that has the original AMG build documents, price sheets, and bill of sale with the VIN for that particular SL on each page. In other words, it is a real AMG as backed with the original AMG documents. That car has the engine upgrades but does not have any AMG stickers under the hood. It has limited slip, by the way, which also shows up as an item and price on the build sheet.
3) This AMG Tech Guide was published in late 1987/early 1988 by AMG of North America; I scanned it for your education. Notice the words “AMG Aero 8x17” on page 29 and “3.27 (Ltd slip)" on page 30 for the w124:
Rikk ain't as smart as he thinks he is.
As for the LSD, well, again you took my comments out of context, since we were talking about a automatic vehicle, that is what my comments were geared towards, AMG only sold the LSD on manual transmission vehicles, so since your car is a automatic, and AMG never sold automatics with a LSD, that is why I said what I did. When I say "AMG never embraced putting LSD's into their vehicles" it never meant to mean they never built any, that was your assumption again.
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AMG Aero wheels are NOT the same wheels you have on your car.
Just an FYI. Your wheels are AMG Aero Monoblock II's and they would be listed as such on the "documentation"
Comparison....there are CLEAR differences.
Aero:
Monoblock II:
Just an FYI. Your wheels are AMG Aero Monoblock II's and they would be listed as such on the "documentation"
Comparison....there are CLEAR differences.
Aero:
Monoblock II:
Last edited by ZorroAMG; Aug 10, 2008 at 03:49 AM.
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86 W124
Any way you could PM me some specs on the engine. I'm trying to build it but it would be nice to have amg numbers. Head, and cam specs along with which crank, rob and piston setup? I've heard mixed numbers.
Thanks,
Peter
Thanks,
Peter
