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Old May 24, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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1. Has had rough Idle for a couple of months.

2. Mild Surging for the last couple of months. Mostly at stop lights and really bad in reverse. I replaced the MAS flow sensor and that cleaned it up a bit.

3. Recently at start up the car runs as though it has a dead cylinder or like the timing is way out of whack. If I sit at idle and rev the engine past 4000 rpm a couple of times then it will clear up. If you have ever had a catalytic converter collapse and the engine bogs down it feels just like that. If I floor it while it is screwing up it takes a couple of seconds and then it clears up.


My first thought is the OVP relay from what I have read and considering I replaced the MAS and have confirmed the Wire Harness to be replacement. Have any of you come across this and what was the culprit for you? I just don't want to go spend the $90.00 on the OVP if there is something else that is glaring. Let me know what ya know.

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Old May 25, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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So I built my little code reader out of a plastic container an LED and some plugs (if you havn't done this yet you really should i should have done it sooner).

The codes are saying O2 Sensor (code 13) and Idle/accelerator controller (code 42) so I will start with the O2 and then go with the idle controller. I'll post how it goes
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Old May 25, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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Sounds like it's running rich at startup. If it does it when it's cold I would suspect a temp sensor. The O2 sensor is not active until a couple minutes after a cold startup. If it only does it when warm then I would lean towards the O2 sensor. Since you are getting a code for that you should replace it anyway. Good luck, keep us posted.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Have you replaced your spark plug wire set??? I had teh same problems for months, replaced teh engine harness helped a little, then bought the new wire set, car runs like a champ now, knock on wood.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by vili1982
Have you replaced your spark plug wire set??? I had teh same problems for months, replaced teh engine harness helped a little, then bought the new wire set, car runs like a champ now, knock on wood.
I just replaced plugs a month ago and thoroughly inspected the plug wires. They have been replaced recently and seem to be fine.
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Old May 25, 2008 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by shdoug
Sounds like it's running rich at startup. If it does it when it's cold I would suspect a temp sensor. The O2 sensor is not active until a couple minutes after a cold startup. If it only does it when warm then I would lean towards the O2 sensor. Since you are getting a code for that you should replace it anyway. Good luck, keep us posted.
You wouldn't happen to know if that 13 code is the upstream or downstream sensor do ya.
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Old May 26, 2008 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GEDaggett
You wouldn't happen to know if that 13 code is the upstream or downstream sensor do ya.
Great question! For some reason I was thinking it only had one, but that would be unusual, wouldn't it? Everyone only seems to talk about one O2 sensor.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by shdoug
Great question! For some reason I was thinking it only had one, but that would be unusual, wouldn't it? Everyone only seems to talk about one O2 sensor.
I found out it only has one. I guess back then they didn't have the really stringent California emissions standards (the same on that requires the Subaru STi to have 3 cats and 4 O2sensors.) I ran the second set of codes on pin 14and it is giving me a brake lamp switch code. I think the main problem is the O2 and I am going to replace it this week.
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remember that the O2 censor is the same as the 5.0 mustang, and only requires a bit of soldering to make it fit. Much cheaper.
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Old May 27, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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remember that the O2 censor is the same as the 5.0 mustang, and only requires a bit of soldering to make it fit. Much cheaper.
Thanks for the reminder. Is that for the 3.2 m104 engine as well as the 103?
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So I ran the codes off of pin 14 and it gave me a #5 brake lamp switch code. Any ideas on what that is???
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So I ran the codes off of pin 14 and it gave me a #5 brake lamp switch code. Any ideas on what that is???
If the brake lights work and the cruise works them the switch should be fine, I would think.
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