300E has a short - How do you find it?
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300E has a short - How do you find it?
The 300E 2.6 seems to have a short. Please suggest how to track down a phantom 'electrical leak'.
I've taken the car to a professional, who looked at it for a week, and could only find a slight "electrical leak (short)", which he addressed.
My daughter drives the car, and only she has experienced the dead battery.
The alarm system is connected, and works. I was thinking the alarm was going off, and draining the battery. But if the alarm was active - all would hear it.
I have replaced the OVP, and the battery twice (original replacement, and a replacement of the replacement)
I'm asking for suggestions on how to track down the short.
I am currently driving the car daily - which may be keeping it charged - but yes I see no issue.
thanks for the help and suggestions.
I've taken the car to a professional, who looked at it for a week, and could only find a slight "electrical leak (short)", which he addressed.
My daughter drives the car, and only she has experienced the dead battery.
The alarm system is connected, and works. I was thinking the alarm was going off, and draining the battery. But if the alarm was active - all would hear it.
I have replaced the OVP, and the battery twice (original replacement, and a replacement of the replacement)
I'm asking for suggestions on how to track down the short.
I am currently driving the car daily - which may be keeping it charged - but yes I see no issue.
thanks for the help and suggestions.
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Maybe you need a new battery? Start removing fuses that have to do with the interior, stereo, and alarm. Buy a Jump Pack for her. They are about 50 bucks and that will help her start the car when it drains out.
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Did get her a portable battery - for starting the car
She seems to be experienced at using the battery pack
Please expound - what do you suggest after removing the fuse.
I was considering a trick I found on this forum - to use a headlight and see which fuse was 'putting out power'.
One wire on the battery and the other in the fuse box - light on suggest there is power - but some should have power.
Tis a puzzlement
Please expound - what do you suggest after removing the fuse.
I was considering a trick I found on this forum - to use a headlight and see which fuse was 'putting out power'.
One wire on the battery and the other in the fuse box - light on suggest there is power - but some should have power.
Tis a puzzlement
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As I responded to your previous post about this, get a voltmeter and hook it up to the battery. Start pulling fuses one by one until you get a change on the voltmeter. Whichever fuse causes the voltage to rise...is where your problem is located.
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The hunt goes on
So last week, I had the car parked at the airport.
After sitting for a 5 days, I went to start it - and no charge to the battery. Seemed like the dashboard lights were having a challenge to light.
Over the weekend I pulled each fuse, and tested the current by placing the red probe on the bottom and the black probe on the top. (If you get it backwards - the amps report as negative - no harm)
Found that when the ammeter (multimeter) was set for 10 Amps, there was current on fuse #9 (radio, clock and such). (read .12 amps)
Is .12 very much?
Well, this week the car is at the airport again. Only this time I removed fuse #1 & #9. Both relate to the radio and other 'dashboard things'.
I'll report back next week. I'll be getting the car on Thursday night - Hope the battery doesn't die, that may help identify the circuit with a short.
After sitting for a 5 days, I went to start it - and no charge to the battery. Seemed like the dashboard lights were having a challenge to light.
Over the weekend I pulled each fuse, and tested the current by placing the red probe on the bottom and the black probe on the top. (If you get it backwards - the amps report as negative - no harm)
Found that when the ammeter (multimeter) was set for 10 Amps, there was current on fuse #9 (radio, clock and such). (read .12 amps)
Is .12 very much?
Well, this week the car is at the airport again. Only this time I removed fuse #1 & #9. Both relate to the radio and other 'dashboard things'.
I'll report back next week. I'll be getting the car on Thursday night - Hope the battery doesn't die, that may help identify the circuit with a short.
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Made a wiring chnage - hope it works
The car was parked at the airport all week with fuse 1 & 9 removed.
The car started. So I had a clue - and I think 9 was the culpret.
I intended to trace each wire down - testing if there were amps on it - but ... found (per EMT) that all wires were red with a white line.
Took the fuse box apart and sure enough - all wires off of fuse 9 we red with white line.
Prepared for further investigation by testing the amps drawing, with key removed - tested at the battery. Disconnected battery cable, connected (touched) ampmeter with the terminal and main wire - .14 amps (and .13 were from fuse 9)
But I did notice there were two groups of four wires. One group had an amp reading of .13 with keys removed, and the other did not.
Then a thought came - I could put the hot wires to a post that was only hot with the key turned on.
I ended up removing the hot group of 4 wires and re-attaching to fuse 5.
Should be interesting - I'm hoping the clock is not in the group that I moved. I've already confirmed - the radio use to work with key removed - does not now.
{Yes, the stray wire I found before is still there - will remove soon.}
The car started. So I had a clue - and I think 9 was the culpret.
I intended to trace each wire down - testing if there were amps on it - but ... found (per EMT) that all wires were red with a white line.
Took the fuse box apart and sure enough - all wires off of fuse 9 we red with white line.
Prepared for further investigation by testing the amps drawing, with key removed - tested at the battery. Disconnected battery cable, connected (touched) ampmeter with the terminal and main wire - .14 amps (and .13 were from fuse 9)
But I did notice there were two groups of four wires. One group had an amp reading of .13 with keys removed, and the other did not.
Then a thought came - I could put the hot wires to a post that was only hot with the key turned on.
I ended up removing the hot group of 4 wires and re-attaching to fuse 5.
Should be interesting - I'm hoping the clock is not in the group that I moved. I've already confirmed - the radio use to work with key removed - does not now.
{Yes, the stray wire I found before is still there - will remove soon.}