Problems with climate control system
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Problems with climate control system
My climate control system is very unpredictable. The ac works intermittently. Sometimes I get conditioned air, and sometimes (most of the time) I don't. When I switch to defrost (the left-most switch on the climate controls), it blasts ungodly hot air, regardless of the temperature setting. Any thoughts as to what may be wrong? Thanks for your time!
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2002 CLK55, 1993 190E, 1975 230C, 2007 E350
Heater/AC control unit?
I had mine go out, they are a pretty simple change out. Germanstar and autohauzaz have them for a couple hundred bucks. I had very similar symptoms before I changed mine out. It might be your temp sensor too.
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1994 E36, 1995 E36, 1996 C36, 1999 CL500, 2015 GL 63
Just replace the "AC Relay", u can pick one up at the wrecking yard for less than $30.00. At the dealer, its about $220.00
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Take a 1cm x1 cm piece of paper and place it over the vent up in the overhead light switch. If it sticks there, you have ruled out a bad aspirator or sampler motor, which pulls air through that vent across the interior temp sensor. If the paper falls off, then that little motor under the right dash vent in the dash is not sucking air, and the temp sensor gives a signal for full heat, then full cold, etc.
Is the charge of r134 refrigerant correct? If not, the compressor won't run. When you do not have cold air, did you look at the compressor to check if the clutch is even engaged? That "AC relay" he refers to is called the Klima relay, which controls the compressor engaging on. Not all 124 cars have it- that function was wrapped into the MAS control unit for a few years.
There are other things to check before buying a reconditioned Climate Control Unit (the pushbutton unit), about $250.
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OK. I have also noticed that whenever my AC does not work, my Cruise Control does not work either. When the AC DOES work, the cruise control works. Thoughts???
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2002 CLK55, 1993 190E, 1975 230C, 2007 E350
X53/5 connector
Might be the case - E Class owner's bible (good book to own) has a possible soln page 323
Pull the instrument cluster, and there is a six pin connector behind it, just to the right of center. Contacts are bad in the connector - you can either just try to clean them out, or replace the connector (the dealer can get you a brand new one if you want). Same symptoms as you describe - CC not functioning correctly, and A/C blower speed is not working
You might also look at the harness under the fuse box.
Pull the instrument cluster, and there is a six pin connector behind it, just to the right of center. Contacts are bad in the connector - you can either just try to clean them out, or replace the connector (the dealer can get you a brand new one if you want). Same symptoms as you describe - CC not functioning correctly, and A/C blower speed is not working
You might also look at the harness under the fuse box.
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You should also check the condition of the lower wring harness that connects to the compressor. I believe that both the A/C compressor and pressure control wiring and the cruise control wiring run in the same harness at certain points. Also check to make sure the your serpentine belt is tight and in good condition. The A/C controller detects slippage and will shut down the compressor if it occurs.
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If you hear a sound like a clock ticking when you move the temperature switch from hot to cold ( not all the way to recirculate air) then i know exactly what the problem is. There is an electric motor that opens and closes the heater valve. This regulates how much hot coolant circulates through the heater core. The motor is too weak to completely close the valve. The clicking or ticking noise is the motor attempting to close the valve. The part is about $100. The dealer wants over $1000 to install. It involves taking the dash out completely. Sevdral days to complete.
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If you wish to view this motor you can take the dash glove compartment out and on the left side behind the metal reinforment tube you can see the mechanism. You can't really see the motor but you can see the linkage and the top of the valve. To verify you can move the temperature contol swich from hot to cold. If the linkage stops moving and then you can move it by hand more it is the motor.
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X53/5 connector
Isboogy, (or anyone else) can you recommend a source where I can buy an X53/5 six pin connector? The blower on my 93 300ce has shut down and the tech I brought it to advises that this part is the problem but has been discontinued by MB. I am having trouble finding any one that knows what it is, much less finding one. Any assistance will be most appreciated. Will
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2002 CLK55, 1993 190E, 1975 230C, 2007 E350
X53/5 is a breakout block
It just routes the hall effect sensor to any number of places on your car. The green wire on the front goes to the hall effect (speed) sensor connector on the speedometer housing, and the rest of the wires go to other things (your pushbutton control for one). You should be able to just get any 1:6 breakout block at an electronics supply store (or just go to digikey dot com) with a 2A current rating and use that. If you are in a pinch, just twist all the wires together and wrap with electrical tape.
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2001 CLK E320 Mercedes Benz
2001 CLK E320 climate control module losing power.
Hi. I have a 2001 CLK E320 benz. The issue I'm having is this.
1. When I first start the car. The climate control will work fine. After about 1 or 2 vminutes the screen would go blank. Nothing works. Then the fan under the hood would come on and stay on.
If I let the car sit and repeat the process. It would work again for another 1 to 2 minutes.
The AC works fine as well as the heat until it loses power.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
1. When I first start the car. The climate control will work fine. After about 1 or 2 vminutes the screen would go blank. Nothing works. Then the fan under the hood would come on and stay on.
If I let the car sit and repeat the process. It would work again for another 1 to 2 minutes.
The AC works fine as well as the heat until it loses power.
Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.