EIS, Key, Green Key, Mechanical Key, Steering Wheel Lock
03-25-2007, 12:38 AM
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03-27-2007, 11:50 AM
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Ahh, dealer love to rob you. I'm on my 10th set of key (keep losing & forgot in pocket when put the pants in washer). Well, the last two have to do with the new design key 
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With a Mercedes, you can only have at most 8 key (computer can only recognize up to 8), from the 9th key on, you have to order them as "replacement". On the first 8 key, order is easy. From the 9th on, it's a bit more work. When you order them, just tell them as replacement/duplicate for "bank one first one", or "bank one second one"., or "bank one third one". What the manufacture would do is that they will code the key as replacement for the first or second one.
Here's the trick: if you order the key as a new one (first 8), then the key will work right out of the box. From the 9th one one (replacement), it will not. You will have to train the key to learn the EIS (Electronic Ignition System). Some dealer do it for free, some dealer charge an hour or two of labor on this, some charge 8-10 hours !!!, and of course, some will tell you to replace the entire system, and charge a arm + leg.
The learning process is simple though: simply plug the key in the ignition (you will not be able to turn), after 4-5 hours, you will be alble to turn one level, then leave it there for couple more hour. After 8 hours, you're done. New key will void the one that you replace (1st or 2nd).
This will save you so much money, not to mention being able to go w/ new key design as you wish.
I learned all of these from one of the master tech at one of the biggest Benz dealer here, and they work wonderfully on my last 2 keys (new style). Yes, he did say lot of service advisor just quote for the entire EIS replacement, since it's so profitable. Now, notice that quoting book allow dealer to replace the entire EIS when customer go beyond 8 key, and this trick is not widely advertised by dealer, it's up to technican and service advisor on whether they want to go this backdoor way & save customer money, or rob them dry.
Here's the order quote I got from the place that I order, so you can see that exceeding 8 key doesn't mean you have to break the bank for the new EIS.
New key, and a bit older key.
. With a Mercedes, you can only have at most 8 key (computer can only recognize up to 8), from the 9th key on, you have to order them as "replacement". On the first 8 key, order is easy. From the 9th on, it's a bit more work. When you order them, just tell them as replacement/duplicate for "bank one first one", or "bank one second one"., or "bank one third one". What the manufacture would do is that they will code the key as replacement for the first or second one.
Here's the trick: if you order the key as a new one (first 8), then the key will work right out of the box. From the 9th one one (replacement), it will not. You will have to train the key to learn the EIS (Electronic Ignition System). Some dealer do it for free, some dealer charge an hour or two of labor on this, some charge 8-10 hours !!!, and of course, some will tell you to replace the entire system, and charge a arm + leg.
The learning process is simple though: simply plug the key in the ignition (you will not be able to turn), after 4-5 hours, you will be alble to turn one level, then leave it there for couple more hour. After 8 hours, you're done. New key will void the one that you replace (1st or 2nd).
This will save you so much money, not to mention being able to go w/ new key design as you wish.
I learned all of these from one of the master tech at one of the biggest Benz dealer here, and they work wonderfully on my last 2 keys (new style). Yes, he did say lot of service advisor just quote for the entire EIS replacement, since it's so profitable. Now, notice that quoting book allow dealer to replace the entire EIS when customer go beyond 8 key, and this trick is not widely advertised by dealer, it's up to technican and service advisor on whether they want to go this backdoor way & save customer money, or rob them dry.
Here's the order quote I got from the place that I order, so you can see that exceeding 8 key doesn't mean you have to break the bank for the new EIS.
New key, and a bit older key.
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03-27-2007, 06:40 PM
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Have 2009 E350W4. Had 2007 C280W4, 1998 E320S, 1990 300E, 1986 300E
Breakdown
EIS= $600
New Key= $190
Green Key= $100
Blade=$40
Steering Lock= $288
Labor= 3-4 hours for EIS
Labor= 2-3 hours for Steering Lock
All in all that's a pretty hefty job. But at least now you've got a functioning EIS and steering lock. Its the worst when those things die on you while you're driving.
New Key= $190
Green Key= $100
Blade=$40
Steering Lock= $288
Labor= 3-4 hours for EIS
Labor= 2-3 hours for Steering Lock
All in all that's a pretty hefty job. But at least now you've got a functioning EIS and steering lock. Its the worst when those things die on you while you're driving.
