E-Class (W210) 1995-2002: E 200, E 220D, E 240, E 290TD, E 300TD, E 200, E 240, E 280, E 320, E 420, E 430 (Wagon, Touring, 4Matic)

Catalytic Converter Problem PLEASE HELP!!!!!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 12:44 PM
  #1  
Armanistyle112's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
2001 S500
Unhappy Catalytic Converter Problem PLEASE HELP!!!!!

I have a problem with both Left and right side catalytic converters. I dont know if my emissions warranty for the car is up or not. It has about 78,000 and its a 1998 E320.. I am located in California so we have strict emission system here. I need to know where I can purchase the converters for cheaper then Retail $700 each. Do they make after market converters... Someone Please help me
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:01 PM
  #2  
KWiK's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,891
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
2002 C230 : 2007 C230
Federal emissions warranty is 8yrs/80K miles and includes the cats
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:06 PM
  #3  
Armanistyle112's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
2001 S500
I have actually contacted Mercedes Benz and they told me the Emissions warranty is 7yrs 70,000 miles.. Are you sure its 8yrs 80,000?
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:37 PM
  #4  
KWiK's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,891
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
2002 C230 : 2007 C230
I will see if I can verify this, but I'm pretty sure the CA warranty is 7/70 but the Federal warranty is 8/80 so even in CA they have to provide an 8/80 warranty.
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:40 PM
  #5  
Armanistyle112's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
2001 S500
Thank you for your help... I'm actually contacting My local mercedes dealership about the federal emissions warranty
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:43 PM
  #6  
KWiK's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,891
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
2002 C230 : 2007 C230
Direct from the EPA web site

cats are covered for 8/80
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 02:01 PM
  #7  
Armanistyle112's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
2001 S500
I just got off the phone with MBUSA and they told me that it is 70K/7yrs for california becasue california has its own emissions code and that the Federal emissions warranty 8yr 80K mile warranty will not be valid because the california one will over ride it. Is this Bull$#&% or what... Can someone please tell me if this is true or not...
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 02:15 PM
  #8  
KWiK's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,891
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
2002 C230 : 2007 C230
I guess it time to ask a lawyer, but as I understand it, the state can't reduce the warranty protection offered by the feds.

This is where you need to become one of those very loud customers. A loud, pissed off customer in the service drive is not what a dealer wants. If they still won't do it, tell them to get the zone rep on the phone. Don't give in easy.
Reply
MB World Stories

The Best of Mercedes & AMG

story-0

New Mercedes-AMG SUVs Arrive With NEW V8 Engine: 12 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

 
story-4

7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 03:36 PM
  #9  
Armanistyle112's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
2001 S500
That sounds like a good plan... I dont know how a state can outlaw a federal backed warranty. This all seems a bit skeptic to me... I think i'll be a very loud customer and hey maybe even have to report this to my local news station if MB doesn't want to honor this...
Thanks for your help..
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 03:41 PM
  #10  
Armanistyle112's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
2001 S500
I'm also going to contact CA DMV to find out if this is true or not... I think MBUSA is trying to short change me on this because my mileage is almost 80K
Reply
Old Nov 8, 2002 | 03:57 PM
  #11  
KWiK's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,891
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
2002 C230 : 2007 C230
Be sure not to exceed 80K before this is resolved.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2002 | 01:20 AM
  #12  
phungpho's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
From: California
2000 E430 Desert Silver
Armanistyle112

I just checkek out the Service and Warranty Information (2000):

Emission Performance/Control (Federal): 8 years/80,000 miles
Emission Control (California, Massachusetts, Vermont): 7years/70,000 miles.

May be try another dealer, they might fix it free for you. Good luck.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2002 | 02:28 PM
  #13  
Mach430's Avatar
Out Of Control!!
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 35,855
Likes: 3
From: Southern CA
I'm not an expert on this, but I was always under the impression that federal laws overrule state laws.
Reply
Old Nov 9, 2002 | 03:07 PM
  #14  
Armanistyle112's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
From: San Jose, CA
2001 S500
In the California & Massachusetts Emission Control System Warranty section in my 1998 MB Warranty book, it states that " An emission related part is covered by the warranty of 7yrs/70,000" But it also states in the same section that " If your vehicle is between 3 to 8 years old and has been driven less than 80,000 miles, then your car may be eligible for additional coverage under the Federal Emissions warranty." This may be a good argument that I can use against MB. I'll give it a shot this week and Let you all know whats going on.
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 01:26 PM
  #15  
Ben'z's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
From: LA/OC
E320
Does Starmark extended warranty cover it?
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:10 PM
  #16  
lexrex's Avatar
Super Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 588
Likes: 1
'98 E320 4Matic, '85 380SL
Maybe you need to take a day trip to Arizona or Nevada
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 02:19 PM
  #17  
JDM's Avatar
JDM
Super Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 732
Likes: 0
From: oregon
2011 C300
Dont forget that the service manager has the ability to "good will" repairs also. It's an authority the manufacturer gives reps, and managers for good customer service. If they stubbornly refuse, and can not be legally bound, they can excersise the option of offering a "customer participation" good will. Still cheaper than $1400 plus labor! IMO, I would stick with factory cats. Aftermarket cats are cheaper, but if they do not function perfect for your car, your O2 sensors can freak out, or wear out...
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 03:46 PM
  #18  
BlownV8's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 8,882
Likes: 1,214
From: In my garage
E55, GLS450, GL63, GLE350
Yes, federal law supercedes state laws. Contact the US EPA and let them know what is going on. They will tell you that you need a letter of refusal from Mercedes USA. Call MBUSA and let them know that you need a letter of refusal from them concerning their failure to honor the federal emission laws. Make sure that you tell them that you absolutely need it in writing because the US EPA has received many complaints and my order a recall due to all the defective catalytic converters. I don't think they will push their luck if you car is less than 8 years old and has less than 80,000 miles.
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:22 PM
  #19  
MB Fanatic's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 5,143
Likes: 1
From: South Orange County, CA
4 wheels
Whats the point of reviving a thread nearly 3 years old? I am sure the car is fixed by now lol.
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:31 PM
  #20  
Ben'z's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
From: LA/OC
E320
Originally Posted by lexrex
Maybe you need to take a day trip to Arizona or Nevada
Does it work?
My car have a CA license plate on it, and I bought it in CA, too.
Why not take a trip to Las Vegas and save the big money?
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:35 PM
  #21  
Ben'z's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
From: LA/OC
E320
Originally Posted by MB Fanatic
Whats the point of reviving a thread nearly 3 years old? I am sure the car is fixed by now lol.
My car has more than 72,000 miles, but, less than 7 years.
Recently, I heard the sound, which is like from the bad cat.
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 09:37 PM
  #22  
Ben'z's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
From: LA/OC
E320
What will happen, if I have Brabus muffler?
Will it affect the warrenty?
Reply
Old Jul 8, 2005 | 10:33 PM
  #23  
Ben'z's Avatar
MBWorld Fanatic!
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,076
Likes: 0
From: LA/OC
E320
Originally Posted by MB Fanatic
Whats the point of reviving a thread nearly 3 years old? I am sure the car is fixed by now lol.
yes, you are right, that car was fixed!

https://mbworld.org/forums/showthrea...ight=catalytic
Reply

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:30 PM.

story-0
New Mercedes-AMG SUVs Arrive With NEW V8 Engine: 12 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's updated GLE 63 S and GLS 63 bring a new-generation V8, subtle design revisions, and familiar supercar-rivaling performance figures.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-17 12:52:51


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Oddball Mercedes Ideas That Actually Made it to Production

Slideshow: Mercedes has never been afraid to experiment, and some of its strangest ideas turned out to be surprisingly successful.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 17:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-2
Dubai Tuner Gives the Mercedes G-Class An Entirely New Look

Sideshow: A Middle Eastern tuner has transformed the Mercedes-AMG G 63 into an open-top special, replacing nearly every exterior panel in the process.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-10 15:29:50


VIEW MORE
story-3
Six Gift Ideas Your AMG Loving Dad or Grad Will Cherish

Slideshow: Six gift ideas your AMG loving dad or grad will cherish.

By | 2026-06-03 17:26:18


VIEW MORE
story-4
7 Craziest Things AMG Gas Ever Built

Slideshow: Sometimes AMG builds fast sedans. Other times, it builds twin-turbo V12 land missiles and six-wheeled off-road monsters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 17:59:58


VIEW MORE
story-5
New Electric Mercedes-AMG GT 4-Door Coupe Unveiled: 10 Things You Need to Know

Slideshow: Mercedes-AMG's new electric GT 4-Door Coupe trades combustion for software, synthetic noise, and more than 1,100 horsepower.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-20 20:08:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
6 Mercedes Models That Did NOT Age Well (But Are Somehow Still Cool)

Slideshow: Not every Mercedes design becomes timeless, some feel stuck in the era they came from.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:09:07


VIEW MORE
story-7
Manual Mercedes? 6 Times Sindelfingen Let Drivers Have All The Fun

Slideshow: Yes, Mercedes built manual cars, and some of them are far more interesting than you'd expect.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-02 12:36:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
Mercedes SLR McLaren 722 S Is Extremely Rare Example Modified by McLaren

Slideshow: A one-of-one U.S.-spec Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren Roadster became even rarer after a factory-backed transformation at McLaren's headquarters.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-29 11:19:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Classic Boxy Mercedes Designs That Have Aged Like Fine Wine

Slideshow: Before curves took over, Mercedes mastered the art of the straight line, and some of those shapes still look right today.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-25 12:05:49


VIEW MORE