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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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Question Spring Padds?

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Just wondering, whats 'spring padds' all about? Ive never heard of them before in the UK and no ones here seems to know anything about them? Do they inprove the ride quality, or are they used to slamm the car a little bit more?

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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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Re: Spring Padds?

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Hello there,

Just wondering, whats 'spring padds' all about? Ive never heard of them before in the UK and no ones here seems to know anything about them? Do they inprove the ride quality, or are they used to slamm the car a little bit more?

Cheers
The spring pads are rubber "donuts" at the top of your springs. They come in various sizes and MB uses them to fine tune the ride height of a vehicle. The difference from the thickest pad to the thinnest pad is about 20mm.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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thanks 4 the Help KWiK,


The rimms are 19" Anteras 323, they very new only been out for about 2/3 months. Imported them from italy. what do you think of them?

The sizes are, rear 19"x9.5 and front 19"x8.5 ive used eibach spings aproxx. 1.8"

next modd will have to be the bumpers, any advise?

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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 01:57 PM
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when removing/installing the spring pads, do we need to remove the springs, or can it be done by just jacking up the car?
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by btx
when removing/installing the spring pads, do we need to remove the springs, or can it be done by just jacking up the car?
Yes, to change the spring pad you will need to remove the spring.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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So there is no way of knowing which spring pad to use until all of the springs are installed and then let the springs settle in.....how long should we wait for them to settle in before we can decide to select the pads?
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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So there is no way of knowing which spring pad to use until all of the springs are installed and then let the springs settle in.....how long should we wait for them to settle in before we can decide to select the pads?
Unless your springs are new, they have already settled. All you need to do is decide which pad size you want. Keep in mind that you won't even get an inch drop by changing pads, so if you are looking for more, buy some springs.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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kwik,

i am confused, you mean i can lower the car just by installing pads? i thought the pads are for raising the car after you've installed lowering springs, correct me if i am wrong.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by btx
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i am confused, you mean i can lower the car just by installing pads? i thought the pads are for raising the car after you've installed lowering springs, correct me if i am wrong.
Yes and No, it depends on which size pads you currently have installed in your car. If you have the thicker pads(more dots) then yes, you can lower your car a bit by changing pads. If you already have a thinner pad in your car, then No, you can not lower it by changing pads, only raise it.

Does that make better sense?
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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Makes perfect sense....now do you know what size pads comes as stock?
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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Makes perfect sense....now do you know what size pads comes as stock?
It depends on your model and options. You can check by looking at the rubber ring around the top of a spring. You should see some little dots (bumps). That will tell you what size you have. A flashlight will help
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 06:01 PM
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cool, thanx
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 06:04 PM
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be sure to check both front and rear, they may not be the same
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 12:29 PM
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kwik,

from you experience, if i were to upgrade the suspension (new shocks/ lowering springs), is it necessary to have the pads in place? what i am trying to say is, are the pads a required item to be place on top of the springs whether it be OEM or aftermarket?
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kwik,

from you experience, if i were to upgrade the suspension (new shocks/ lowering springs), is it necessary to have the pads in place? what i am trying to say is, are the pads a required item to be place on top of the springs whether it be OEM or aftermarket?
Yes, the pads are required.
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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Here are the typical thickness of the pads:

#1 Pad - 5mm
#2 Pad - 9mm
#3 Pad - 13mm
#4 Pad - 17mm

There has been rumours that there is a #5 Pad but no one has confirmed this as far as I know. You may be changing from a #2 to #1 with very little gain.

As KWik has mentioned if you have a #4 Pad and change to a #1 you can drop the car by as much as 12mm (1/2") without changing the springs or shocks, however you have to find out what Pad you have first. Typically, the front and backs are different but really depends on each individual car.

I would recommend changing the Pad as more of a fine tuning than a real lowering of suspension. If you really want to lower the car you should get shorter springs and compressed shocks since you have to take these off (at least the springs) to change the Pads anyways so the labour isn't much different.
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Those wheels look great on the car. However, I would lose the center cap and try to replace them with an MB original cap.
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Thanks 4 the compliment Fanatic,


Thats a good idea, ive never thought of doing that, ill have to give it a try and see the outcome, if all goes well ill post sum pics.

ps Ignore the number plate...
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 01:45 AM
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All,

One thing to remember is if you install 12mm thinner spring pads, the car will actually be lowered more than 12mm.....it will be lowered more like 25mm. The reason for this is the spring is (roughly) sitting in the middle of the lower 'A' arm. So that if you shorten the spring (or install thinner spring pads) it moves the arm 12mm in the middle of the 'A' arm, and the end of the arm (or center of the wheel moves (roughly) 25mm. There are several minor variables to this, but he basic concept is what I'm trying to get across.

PS: My meaurements were done with a tape measure and are rough at best.

thanks, Randall

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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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So, if i want the shorter pads i go to the dealer and ask for which ones?

Got to check which ones i´m using right?
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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...Got to check which ones i´m using right?
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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I´ve checked my spring pads...They have 5 dots on the front.... 5 dots on each side of the spring pad.


Clearing...this means that i´m using which pads??
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Old Jan 7, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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lorinser, whats up man, its been a while since i've seen you post! How's that ride?

The number of bumps indicates the size of spring pad.There are 5 different sizes for the front suspension and 4 for the rear. They vary in size by about 5mm each in ride height......I think one bump pads may be 8 mm and 5 bumps are 24... close to those if not.....Either way, sounds like you have the biggest pads in the front you can get anyway, with the 5 bumpers....
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Old Jan 8, 2003 | 05:46 PM
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Whats up lightman!

yup, it´s been a while...

guess i´m back


The ride is great...Now i´ve painted my AMG wheels (the center of them) with the colour of the car , with the polished lip. It has made quite a difference. I have to post pics.

how´s your benz?


I have to go to the dealer and ask for the 1 dot spring pads?

Regards,Hugo
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