Vic55

I cant seem to get my post down so I am forced to start a new thread but this is for Bones and E55 KEV

Bones:

I have the H&R springs with the Bilstein Sport shock set up. I find this ride to be a perfect match between stiffness and comfortability. I am sure the Kleeman ride is better but its also much more pricey and I really dont track my car. In my day-to-day driving which is a 90 mile turn-a-round I love the ride- soft when needed but stiff at higher speeds. But remember this is my opinion and I actually like a stiffer ride where one is more in tune with the road. If you like the current AMG setup (US Spec) then this might be just a bit too harsh but again I think its not. And since you are sticking with the factory 18's you should be fine.

As for warranty and dealer issues, there should not be any. MB allows for alignment adjustments during the first year of ownership and I brought mine in with the H&R drop and they said nothing. They aligned the car and charged me nothing. For the warranty issue to come into play the dealer would have to prove that the lowering of the car caused the problem in which you had brought the car in to get repaired.

The price may vary but the springs cost around 250 for the set and the shocks are usually in the 80-90 dollar range for one. With labor I would say you could feasibly get it all done for 750-800 dollars. I am sure people have paid less and more but that should be a good benchmark. If you like a softer ride you could go with the Eibach springs- they are little more road friendly and don't lower the car as much. The H&R's drop the car about 1.4 inches but you can adjust this with the spring pads.

E55 KEV:

Yeah the CL wheels run a 46 offset so I had the wheels modified (inner hub milled) and am running Lorninser 10mm hubcentric spacers. There is no wheel shimmy and the ride is the same I have with the BBS 19's. I have the same set of tires on both wheels (S03's). I used to have 19 inch AMG Monoblock II's and had the same thing done. As you can see I love changing wheels.

E55 KEV

I found it. Thanks Vic55.

E55 KEV

Vic55,

Why did the inner hubs of the AMG CL wheels need to be milled? Don't all AMG Mercedes specific wheels have the same hub size of 66.57 or something like that.

Also isn't there a difference in wheel bolt size between W210 and the larger models, ie. W140, W220 & W215? Usually wheels bolts for W220 are larger correct? If the CL wheels require larger bolts how did you fix that problem?

What is the cost of the Lorinser 10mm hub-centric spacers?

Thanks for being the modifying pioneer that you are.

Vic55

You are right about the hub size. The reason the inner hubs are milled, or at least as I have been told, is to allow for the spacers by Lorinser and to keep the wheel hubcentric too. Maybe Lee 2375 can better explain this as I not entirely sure why but from what I was told you dont want to expand on the hub size from the axle or the wheel. I hope this makes sense and they did use different bolts too- longer ones.

lee2375

You can run a HR hubcentric 15mm spacer and longer bolts and they will fit fine. The hardware needed runs 250 for the set: 4 15mm spacers, 20 longer lug bolts. If you run a 10mm spacer the wheels centerbore has to be milled. Its a matter of physics actually; becasue both the car and the wheels centerbore is 66.56, you can't have too thin of a spacer and have it be hubcentric. If you mill out the wheel, you use a spacer that has a larger female end (say, 71mm) and a 66.56 male end to fit to the wheel. A 15mm spacer has enough thickness to have it hubcentric on both sides.

lee2375

The Lorinser wheels use a 71.00 centerbore for their adapter system, as does the old Carlsson stuff, so for Lorinser spacers to fit, the wheel has to be milled out from 71 to 66.56.