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1997 E420 Multiple Missfires

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Old 04-26-2012, 01:37 PM
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1997 E420 Multiple Missfires

Mt 1997 E420 is running poorly, rough and loss of power, also poor fuel millage and the smell of raw fuel in the exhaust. I started having these problems at 154K so I had the 150K work done at an indy. Plugs, boots, and all 4 O2 sensors replaced.

I am at 168K now and all problems have returned. Codes show cylinder 2,3, and 8 missfire, multiple missfires, and rear back O2 sensor failure.

I I found all this returning odd but I did use an indy I had never used before, generally I do all my own work after warrenty but got lazzy. So I pulled and replaced all plugs (copper ones spaced correctly now) the indy had installed platnum plugs in an amazing aray of poor gap settings. I also replaced the 3 boots. The O2 sensor erros I figured was just do to raw fual because of the missfires so I have not replaced it yet.

Unfortunatly this didn't correct anything so I went ahead and replaced all 3 ignition coils. This also has not solved anything. I can't see an O2 sensor causing all this and while I didn't get a code for it this seams to me the next thing to replace is the MAF. Ideas?
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How old are you wires?? Do you have live data capability on your scanner??
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Check fuel pressure...sound like a fuel problem to me!
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Unfortunatly I don't have live capabilities on my scanner, I am looking at finding a new scanner preferable one that links to a laptop.

I have not thought of fuel presure issues, is there a test I can do for that?

The wires to the coils are original.

Thanks for your time guys.
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Although thoughtful, fuel pressure testing is not easy without the actual values and tools for the locations to be tested.

I would at least start to test the condition of the wires. However I do not have the values. Get a new one and check it's value. Rail and injector fuel pressure issues will normally produce faults. I would also check my coolant sensor----use your AC value test to check that! Just don't get suckered in to a new MAF!!
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I had the same issue spent over $800 trying to fix at indy's with no luck to finally be the wires.try taking one of the wires on a cylinder that is not complaining with one that does; and see if the issue follows.

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