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Old Jun 3, 2012 | 06:44 AM
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E320 cdi starting problem

Hi

I have a 320 cdi auto (2001).
It has done 150k miles.

In the last few days it has developed a problem when i go to start it.

When i try to start it for the first time on a oarticular day it takes a long time to start.

It turns/cranks over strongly for about 10 seconds without firing up at all.
(it then stops turning over as i assume stabdard feature after about 10 seconds).

I have to do this about 4 or 5 times before it starts to fire and starts.

If i then turn the engine off and try to start iy again it dtarts first time no problem.
It is then fine for the rest of the day.

But the next day i gave the same problem.
Soletimes the weather us hot, sometimes wet and cold.
Sometimes the first time i start the car is first thing in the morning or lunchtime.
Ie these things dont seem to make a difference.

Anyone had any similar problems?
As i said the engine turns over very strongly/normally.
Just takes 4 or 5 long turnovers/cranjs to finally have any dign of catching/firing up.
Untill then it turns fine. But thats all.

Is this likely to be fuel rail/pump etc related?

Thanks for any help.

Phil

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Old Jun 4, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by philv
Hi

I have a 320 cdi auto (2001).
It has done 150k miles.

In the last few days it has developed a problem when i go to start it.

When i try to start it for the first time on a oarticular day it takes a long time to start.

It turns/cranks over strongly for about 10 seconds without firing up at all.
(it then stops turning over as i assume stabdard feature after about 10 seconds).

I have to do this about 4 or 5 times before it starts to fire and starts.

If i then turn the engine off and try to start iy again it dtarts first time no problem.
It is then fine for the rest of the day.

But the next day i gave the same problem.
Soletimes the weather us hot, sometimes wet and cold.
Sometimes the first time i start the car is first thing in the morning or lunchtime.
Ie these things dont seem to make a difference.

Anyone had any similar problems?
As i said the engine turns over very strongly/normally.
Just takes 4 or 5 long turnovers/cranjs to finally have any dign of catching/firing up.
Untill then it turns fine. But thats all.

Is this likely to be fuel rail/pump etc related?

Thanks for any help.

Phil
Best guess:
* Leak issues in the fuel system.
* Plugged filters.
* Bad fuel.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...el-owners.html

MB diesel filtration, how it works.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/....php?p=1055075

Algae/Fungus fixation...
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...d.php?t=138733

Biobor, what is it, why do I need it???
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...d.php?p=723857

Filters, Fungus, Biocide, etc.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...d.php?p=823378

Algae Clogged Filter Pic StarTron WORKS !
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...d.php?t=138728

Check out this fuel pickup screen
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...d.php?t=140961

W123 Fuel Tank Screen Replacement
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...d.php?t=199206

Fuel tank sender pictures (bit clearer than the wiki ones)
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...d.php?t=277167


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Old Jun 14, 2012 | 07:42 AM
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W210 2002 E320 CDi Avantgarde
Could be air in the fuel lines. This is a common fault and they're not too dear from MB
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Old Jun 20, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by toby1
Could be air in the fuel lines. This is a common fault and they're not too dear from MB
As Toby (hi Toby nice to see you here) said, the most common issue with this and other CDIs will be hardening of the plastic fuel pipes and associated O rings. Many of us with this car have had to change them.
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