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Old 03-05-2002, 10:20 AM
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Help installing Xenon on '98 w210!

I see OEM xenon kits for sale all over the web for the E-class. I'm curious about the installation. I've heard that you just unscrew three screws and one plug, and the factory halogen setup comes out, and then reverse it with the xenon kit and you're golden.

Then in speaking with a tech at the dealer today, he told me that the car would have to be re-wired to run the xenons, sounding very difficult.

Has anyone done this, please help with some advice!! thanks,
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Help installing Xenon on '98 w210!

i own a 99. was thinking of doing the same thing. the dealer told me they wouldn't do it. requires complete electrical rework. cost to retrofit apparently far outweighs the benefit.
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Yikes, thanks

Thats what my dealer told me today as well, that the conversion required re-wiring. However, he didn't really understand that I was speaking of a complete assembly replacement, I think the dealer thought I was attempting to install xenon lamps in the original halogen ballasts/bases. In any case, i'm going to find out the real deal for sure before purchasing one of these kits.

I am however purchasing the e55/avantgarde tail lights, and replacing my stockers, as the new horizontal line/smoked lens tail lights look way cooler!

Take care all,
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The lens housing is also different on the xenon-equipped cars. So if you want to do it right and start changing out the housing as well, it's going to add up real quick...
I looked into it, and the cost-benefit was just not there.
Instead got some Sylvania Cool Blues...works well
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Gentlemen...

Any 96-99 OEM headlamp assembly with xenon's will work, and are direct bolt in replacement. What you will get are the bulbs, the ballasts, and the housings with the correct xenon lenses. What you will not get are the automatic leveling features. This is what the car needs extra wiring for along with two extra sensors. This according to the service manual adjusts the pitch of the lamps electronically after the car has been sitting at the particular angle for more than three seconds. Reality is as long as you aim them properly when you install them, they will be fine. I have done this with my E430. Bought two factory 99 Headlamp assemblies from a beautiful rear end wrecked and totaled 99 E320. Have the correct part numbers on them and all. Took about twnety minutes for both to be installed at the house one evening. Hardest part was replacing the weatherstripping to the correct mounts. That's all. If you get some I would be happy to take you throug the process step by step. Not hard at all. And BTW the factory harness for the halogens and the turn signal are the same for the xenons. What you do not get to hookup is the factory wire for the auto adjust.
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Though the previous post holds true for models 99 and below, the 2000-up models have a different slope on the headlamp that incorporates a 1-piece bumper/valence piece - which needs a complete removal of the front bumper to remove/install the headlamp assembly.
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Awe the thread started in regards to a 98 and a 99 E class W210 model, that was what my response was in regards to.
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The lens housing is also different on the xenon-equipped cars. So if you want to do it right and start changing out the housing as well, it's going to add up real quick...
I looked into it, and the cost-benefit was just not there.
Instead got some Sylvania Cool Blues...works well
On top of that, the dealer's $4k price tag also changes your bumper with the lens washer unit as well.
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Randy, a few more tips?

Randy, i'd like to discuss with you since you have done the mod to your 430. I ordered the xenon light kit (oem) today, and if they are shipped quickly enough, i'd like to shoot for the project this weekend. Your email address wasn't listed - i was hoping we could email over a few details of the installation and the aiming. Please get in touch w/me at diggity_dizank@hotmail.com or post your email address if you're willing to help out. Thanks!
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Be glad to help

Just sent you an E-mail.
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Where can you find the lowest price for the OEM Xenon replacement for 98 E classes?
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Will 96-99 xenon headlights work in my 2001 e320? Are the 2000+ xenons different?
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Will 96-99 xenon headlights work in my 2001 e320? Are the 2000+ xenons differet?
no

yes

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I have been told that the 96-99 xenons are different from the 2000+ xenons in fitment. I might be misinformed so if someone has some info, it would be greatly appreciated. I already have xenons on my 97 and was just wondering for future reference. Thanks...
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Originally posted by jimmydagreek
I have been told that the 96-99 xenons are different from the 2000+ xenons in fitment. I might be misinformed so if someone has some info, it would be greatly appreciated. I already have xenons on my 97 and was just wondering for future reference. Thanks...
Yes both Xenon & Halogen OEM units used for the 1996-1999 models are different from the OEM units used for the 2000-2002 models. They have different part numbers and crazily the older 96-99 units cost more.
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I have one set for a 2000-up W210 on eBay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2411873014

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I got many of the xenon ballasts, ignitors, D2R bulbs, original wiring, reflector and some of the lens. You coud save $$ if you take out the original headlight, remove the non-xenon lens and replace the with Xenon lens and reflector and wiring.

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Re: Xenon Unit

Originally posted by nguyensteve
I got many of the xenon ballasts, ignitors, D2R bulbs, original wiring, reflector and some of the lens. You coud save $$ if you take out the original headlight, remove the non-xenon lens and replace the with Xenon lens and reflector and wiring.

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No offense but why do this? A new set costs a little above $1000 per set.

If you pull the reflector, diffuser and lenses to add the D2R bulbs and the ballasts, technically, the only thing left on the assembly would be the rear housing... then you run the risk of breaking parts during assembly/reassembly, then who knows what kind of light pattern you'd be getting, plus you get no warranty from the dealer if something is wrong.

BTW - where in San Diego are you? Are you a shop? Just curious.
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nguyensteve, I might be interested in the lenses as mine are dull and faded. I will PM you now...Thanks!
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randall-sd,

Doing this save money,, since new or even use Xenon unit cost over $500.00.

I live in Mira Mesa, San Diego, but I work for a smog shop in National City.

If you want to get together and talk about cars.

email me,

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Thanks,
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Re: Xenon Unit

Originally posted by nguyensteve
I got many of the xenon ballasts, ignitors, D2R bulbs, original wiring, reflector and some of the lens. You coud save $$ if you take out the original headlight, remove the non-xenon lens and replace the with Xenon lens and reflector and wiring.

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Is this for someone upgrading from Halogen to HID? How can you install a D2R bulb into a H7 socket or is the D2R socket connected to the relector?
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Re: Xenon Unit

Originally posted by nguyensteve
I got many of the xenon ballasts, ignitors, D2R bulbs, original wiring, reflector and some of the lens. You coud save $$ if you take out the original headlight, remove the non-xenon lens and replace the with Xenon lens and reflector and wiring.

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The housing is not intended for such a "ghetto" retrofit of sorts. A D2R bulb will havea different focal point when compared to the H7 that was intended for the halogen composite housing. With a different focal point the light will re redirected and bounced around in the housing in a way that will most likely produce bad glare. A properly re-based H7 reto kit is the answer.

P.S. No pun with the ghetto comment. But since u have the ballast and other stuff, get yourself a pair of Audi A4/S4 H.I.D. projectors and swap those D2R's for D2S's and you will be straight. Don't worry about the lense as much, but the clear Xenon lense will provide the most light wihtout being refracted. Downside? install the projectors nicely so that they look presentable through the clear lense if you go that route...

My $.02 :-)
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Re: Re: Xenon Unit

Originally posted by michakaveli
The housing is not intended for such a "ghetto" retrofit of sorts. A D2R bulb will havea different focal point when compared to the H7 that was intended for the halogen composite housing. With a different focal point the light will re redirected and bounced around in the housing in a way that will most likely produce bad glare. A properly re-based H7 reto kit is the answer.
He wrote that he is replacing the reflector with an HID reflector... thus, the correct beam pattern is kept.

A "properly re-based H7 retro kit" is not really a good answer. Even if you use an H7 retrofit kit, the bulb is brighter than an H7 bulb, thus the pattern will throw an excessive amount of light at oncoming traffic, causing a perception of excessive glare.

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So, what are the parts/part numbers needed to put factory xenon headlights on a 96-99 E320? Estimated price would be nice too.
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So, what are the parts/part numbers needed to put factory xenon headlights on a 96-99 E320? Estimated price would be nice too.
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