Transmission slipping!
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2002 E430 (totaled at 230k miles), 2002 E55 AMG, 2001 CLK430--SOLD, 1997 C230
Transmission slipping!
2002 e430, 130k miles.
Dropped my daughter off at school and pulling away I hear trans whining. Go about 1/2 mile and it is slipping, bad. Pulled over immediately. Turned off the car restarted, same thing. Slipping in all gears, even reverse.
Had the trans flushed 10k miles ago. It's never had any symptoms until this morning.
Had it towed to my indy, hopefully the news won't be too bad. Maybe this is related to my unexplained droning noise I have never found? Was going to look into tires and have the suspension checked, but this will be first on the list.
Wish me luck....
Dropped my daughter off at school and pulling away I hear trans whining. Go about 1/2 mile and it is slipping, bad. Pulled over immediately. Turned off the car restarted, same thing. Slipping in all gears, even reverse.
Had the trans flushed 10k miles ago. It's never had any symptoms until this morning.
Had it towed to my indy, hopefully the news won't be too bad. Maybe this is related to my unexplained droning noise I have never found? Was going to look into tires and have the suspension checked, but this will be first on the list.
Wish me luck....
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2001 E430, 2002 ML55
2002 e430, 130k miles.
Dropped my daughter off at school and pulling away I hear trans whining. Go about 1/2 mile and it is slipping, bad. Pulled over immediately. Turned off the car restarted, same thing. Slipping in all gears, even reverse.
Had the trans flushed 10k miles ago. It's never had any symptoms until this morning.
Had it towed to my indy, hopefully the news won't be too bad. Maybe this is related to my unexplained droning noise I have never found? Was going to look into tires and have the suspension checked, but this will be first on the list.
Wish me luck....
Dropped my daughter off at school and pulling away I hear trans whining. Go about 1/2 mile and it is slipping, bad. Pulled over immediately. Turned off the car restarted, same thing. Slipping in all gears, even reverse.
Had the trans flushed 10k miles ago. It's never had any symptoms until this morning.
Had it towed to my indy, hopefully the news won't be too bad. Maybe this is related to my unexplained droning noise I have never found? Was going to look into tires and have the suspension checked, but this will be first on the list.
Wish me luck....
Wish you luck!
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2002 E430 (totaled at 230k miles), 2002 E55 AMG, 2001 CLK430--SOLD, 1997 C230
It was slipping....rpm's went up and no forward motion. No reverse, too...rps's up, no reverse. Hopefully just fluid level, but no leaks and the fluid was changed 10k miles ago. Doesn't limp mode at least give you 2nd gear? I tried putting the car into 2,3,4 and 5....nothing. After sitting an hour, car drove up onto flat bed tow truck, no problem.
Didn't hear back from the mechanic, will hopefully know something soon!
Didn't hear back from the mechanic, will hopefully know something soon!
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From: A.D., U.A.E
2000 (W202 C200) & 2000 (W202 C55)
Important to diagnose the car first, codes will help a lot,,
many things can cause this, trans. conductor plate/faulty or oil in the TCU/shifter need to be reset during unplug the harness connector..!
ZAYED,,
many things can cause this, trans. conductor plate/faulty or oil in the TCU/shifter need to be reset during unplug the harness connector..!
ZAYED,,
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2002 E430 (totaled at 230k miles), 2002 E55 AMG, 2001 CLK430--SOLD, 1997 C230
So the saga continues. The car drove about one mile and it 'slipped' again. The mechanic comes to me on the side of the road. He pulls out a box by the top, passenger side of the engine compartment. There is oil in there! He thought it would just need to be cleaned and put back in, which he did...still no gears, or it will go and then stop. These are the codes they found. They are going to drop the pan on the transmission and see what they can find. He's convinced it's electrical....fluid not going to the right spots.
I need this resolved!
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Plutoe....I am....the car isn't going anywhere! I was just hoping someone has seen this or had this problem. He's confident he can fix it...just has to figure it out. He actually replace the computer part with another just to see if it helped, and it didn't, same issue. I know zero about transmissions and have faith in this shop. I'm hopeful!
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2002 E430 (totaled at 230k miles), 2002 E55 AMG, 2001 CLK430--SOLD, 1997 C230
I went ahead with a new (rebuilt) transmission from TBR. Indy said it could have been the pump or other items and looking for and replacing them could get costly and and it may still have issues. I plan to keep the car a long time and I feel it was money well spent.
Very happy with new unit, it runs and drives like a dream now. It also eliminated the 'droning' noise I could never pinpoint.
Very happy with new unit, it runs and drives like a dream now. It also eliminated the 'droning' noise I could never pinpoint.
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2000 w210 4matic wagon
Hey there- first time caller 
I'd love to bump this with a very similar story- except I just bought my wagon...ugh. From everything I have read, an ATF change is first on my list but I guess I should presume the same fate? Is that the common consensus, here, to fear the troubleshoot and just replace the entire thing?
What was the final story on the slipping and why that, itself, could not be addressed directly?
I'd love to bump this with a very similar story- except I just bought my wagon...ugh. From everything I have read, an ATF change is first on my list but I guess I should presume the same fate? Is that the common consensus, here, to fear the troubleshoot and just replace the entire thing?
What was the final story on the slipping and why that, itself, could not be addressed directly?
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98 w210 e320 wagon
Hey there- first time caller <img src="images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" smilieid="4" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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I'd love to bump this with a very similar story- except I just bought my wagon...ugh. From everything I have read, an ATF change is first on my list but I guess I should presume the same fate? Is that the common consensus, here, to fear the troubleshoot and just replace the entire thing? <br />
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What was the final story on the slipping and why that, itself, could not be addressed directly?
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I'd love to bump this with a very similar story- except I just bought my wagon...ugh. From everything I have read, an ATF change is first on my list but I guess I should presume the same fate? Is that the common consensus, here, to fear the troubleshoot and just replace the entire thing? <br />
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What was the final story on the slipping and why that, itself, could not be addressed directly?
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A common issue with the trans in the w210 wagon or sadan is trans fluid wicking from the up into the transmission control module. It can be avoided. You have to replace the connector in the pan while doing a fluid/filter change. Its a cheap part, the tcm isnt. Im not sure what happened with ops trans and we will never know but his tcm was flooded. Could have been that and something else. The conductor plate and a shift spring are also common problems but that doesn't happen to everyone. Also accumulators, super easy
Last edited by UsedLuxury; Nov 23, 2014 at 01:28 PM.
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2002 E430 (totaled at 230k miles), 2002 E55 AMG, 2001 CLK430--SOLD, 1997 C230
I thought I would check back with you.
Yes, the TCM was flooded with trans fluid. After drying it out with electrical spray, and even putting in a working (different) TCM, the car still wouldn't move in any gear. At that point the CEL was on and the codes I posted were present.
I elected to go rebuilt due to the fact that there were shavings in the pan and damage was likely. Instead of 'fixing' the old trans and possibly having problems continue, the new unit made more sense. I can't keep going to the shop and being without my car, plus the expense of chasing a potentially larger problem down the road. I bit the bullet. The new unit has the new connector to prevent the fluid from wicking up the wires into the TCM. Also, new torque converter and built with all genuine M-Benz parts. It should be trouble-free for a long time.
Yes, the TCM was flooded with trans fluid. After drying it out with electrical spray, and even putting in a working (different) TCM, the car still wouldn't move in any gear. At that point the CEL was on and the codes I posted were present.
I elected to go rebuilt due to the fact that there were shavings in the pan and damage was likely. Instead of 'fixing' the old trans and possibly having problems continue, the new unit made more sense. I can't keep going to the shop and being without my car, plus the expense of chasing a potentially larger problem down the road. I bit the bullet. The new unit has the new connector to prevent the fluid from wicking up the wires into the TCM. Also, new torque converter and built with all genuine M-Benz parts. It should be trouble-free for a long time.
