kicker

Guys,

Here we go, just finished installed with Koni sport adjustable and Vogtland Springs. Pad size: front #3 bump, rear #1 bump. I think the front is way too high, 3 finger gap. Rear 1 finger gap. Carlsson 2/6 18" wheels 235/40/18 front, 265/35/18
street with uphill slope.
Do you guys think I need adjustable camber?
uneven street level though with uphill

kicker

leveled garage

left front in leveled garage
left rear in leveled garage
Do you guys think front and back not equal level of wheel gaps, does it look funny?

kicker

Do you guys think I need adjustable camber arms?



If I would replace with #4 or 5 rear spring pad, do I still need adj. camber arms. may be it is better to purchase one, so will help out the uneven wear on the tires. what do yo guys think?

kicker

here is the picture of Vogtland spring & Koni Adjustable shocks
rear mounting
#1 bump rear spring pad

Guys, please give me some suggestions on how to make the front wheel gaps and rear looks more even....

thanks.

jimmydagreek

You really need to change the front pads to bring the front down IMHO. Your rear camber is not that bad but if you'd like to correct it, just order the rear camber arms from speedybenz as we prev. discussed. With the way your car sits right now I would use #1 pads in the front and that would level your car out nicely and get rid of that huge gap.

KWiK

I would suggest putting #1 pads in the front and I don't think you need a camber kit for the rear.


So how is the ride? How do you have the Koni's set?

kicker

I have my Koni's front set at soft, rear set at 50% (soft-firm). I think it was a little to harsh, becuase you can really feel all the bumps on the road. I think I'll go back change the rear ones to soft, since the spring is low, so hopefully shocks will compensate that.

Well, I'll get the #1 pads for the front from dealer hopfully will bring the car to the level. So for the rear higher pads aren't necessary?

thanks, guys!

jimmydagreek

Nope! It looks great the way it is, just change the front pads to #1's...

Shane C

I agree! front pads to number one. what sizes were on before install? did you do this install yourself? i am leaning towards vogtland springs but havent heard to much feedback on them. are you impressed?

KWiK

The Vogtland Website is now available in english.

Take a Tour of a Vogtland factory.

kicker

Front pad is at #3, I wish there were some #1 pad around, now I got to do it all over again . But that's ok, it shouldn't take too long since we did once before already. The rear installations was much easier than the front. (no spring compressor needed for all 4 corners. just need to drop the lower control arms, BE CAREFUL when you drop the lower control arm, the old spring will try to pop out. you would use a jack and slow lowering it. do it at your own risk ) If you are not sure, I would recommended to have prefessional installed. If you would go with Vogtland Spring, make sure you have Koni adjustable shocks and set to full soft. otherwise since the rear springs drops significantly lower than the front, the rides would be harsh.
Overall, I liked the setup. just make sure you have the right pads. #1 pad all the way around.

Shane C

yeah i think i will go with this set up. i heard autozone loans the spring compressor! give them a call not sure if they do in your area.

kicker

We have autozone here in town also, I think they have free rentals, they hold the deposit until you returns back to them. Are you sure you want to use the spring compressor? I think dropping the lower controller arm is easier. I don't know, either way is ok. Just Becareful!!! The only thing you have to watch out for is the spring will release the tension and pop out. When install back the lower controller arm, it is hard to line-up the hole to secure the bolts. Two jacks are needed and a C-clamp to maneuver the arm in to the right position let the bolt easier to fit thru the hole.

KWiK

Not with the proper spring compressor

kicker

That's nice KWik, I wish I can access with this type of spring compressor, it would really save a lot of time with this particular kind. This one would be easier than dropping the controller arms. I couldn't find anybody in town has that. All we have in town is the cheap kind you can rent with two clamps on both end with a hook, and cramped down.

Whitey

Sorry for the late reply - been travelling.

Sexy looking springs and the drop is a vast improvement. But yes, I agree, some pad adjustment is definitely needed. You may also like to consider swapping the fronts with the back for a tilted look..

kicker

I thought the front pad's diameter is larger than the back, I just ordered two #1 pads for the front from the dealer yesterday.

Whitey

Wasn't sure actually, my bad......sloppy advice again

Oh, well, can't wait to see. Not sure if the #1 up front would be enough with this setup....the front looks real high:o

kicker

yeap, front looks pretty high, 3 figer gaps. I think each # of pads is like 5mm. so if use #1 pad would only drops about 10mm more, which is about a finger height. I probabaly need to buy either #3 or #2 for the rear pad to balanced out. But I saw a W211 E55 over the weeknd, I went there and stick my fingers to measure the gaps , it has about 2 fingers in the front and 1.5 finger at the back. what you think? I think I am gonna see what it looks like after #1 pad installed at the front.

Whitey

You don't have a lot of crap in the trunk like me do you? Mine looks low in the back (especially with the front fender arch is higher than the back) still but it is actually fairly level as you can see from my sig pic. I responded to your PM BTW.

kicker

Nope, I don't have whole lots of things in the trunk, just a set of golf clubs once in a while. What # pads are yo running with? #1 all the way around?

Whitey

#1 front, #4 rears.....still not enough for the front IMO...of course it is different with different springs and I dun think many have your setup to tell u what's optimal unfortunately.

Shane C

what is the difference in amount of drop between eibach and vogtland. whitey your car looks alot lower .i thought vogtland slightly lower drop

Whitey

If Vogtland's are meant to be lower, I seriously think the cars in Asia and Europe are set higher than the US versions (that's what I observed on the stock cars...but dunno if its true, or how but it seems that way).

KWiK

According to the websites, the drops are...

Eibach = 1.2" (30mm)
Vogtland = 1.6" (40mm)