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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 03:17 PM
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Cold Start Rattle [Video]

So I started hearing a rattling sound upon a cold start on the driver bank but I dismissed it as part of a bad cat problem. After fixing the cat problem I was still hearing it. I am not throwing seeing or codes at the moment.

Could this be a leaky injector? or issue with spark/pack? I faintly hear it on occasion while driving. Should I look at fuel trims? How should I test or diagnose?
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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tall Giraffe
So I started hearing a rattling sound upon a cold start on the driver bank but I dismissed it as part of a bad cat problem. After fixing the cat problem I was still hearing it. I am not throwing seeing or codes at the moment.

Could this be a leaky injector? or issue with spark/pack? I faintly hear it on occasion while driving. Should I look at fuel trims? How should I test or diagnose?
Could be noisy lifters? Are you in cold weather? Timing chain? Not enuf info. Mileage?
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It rattles briefly upon a cold start both warm and cold temperatures. The sound does not last once started as seem in the video. When warm it seems to have an harder start.

Im about 160K on the mileage.

If one opens the valve cover are there any obvious indicators of worn lifters?
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It rattles briefly upon a cold start both warm and cold temperatures. The sound does not last once started as seem in the video. When warm it seems to have an harder start.

Im about 160K on the mileage.

If one opens the valve cover are there any obvious indicators of worn lifters?
No, it is internal to the lifter. Could also be CAT on that side. Just guessing here. A good indy can figure it out pretty fast. If it is lifters, a couple cans of Liqui Moly forHydraulic lifters will quiet it down.
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Thanks for the input.

The cats are 3 days old and as I recollect, the same sound occured with the old cats and manifolds. I discounted it as bad cats then. The old driver side cat was blown though.

People who have heard it in person also asks if its an exhaust leak but it doesn't seem to continue. It seems like a misfire by the way the exhaust sounds.

This a.m. I pulled the bank side plugs and cylinder 6,7 were the worst looking like it was running rich. Cleaned them up and reinstalled. First start did not rid the sound so far.

Im going to do some injector cleaner as well since its been a while since I have done so.
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Thanks for the input.

The cats are 3 days old and as I recollect, the same sound occured with the old cats and manifolds. I discounted it as bad cats then. The old driver side cat was blown though.

People who have heard it in person also asks if its an exhaust leak but it doesn't seem to continue. It seems like a misfire by the way the exhaust sounds.

This a.m. I pulled the bank side plugs and cylinder 6,7 were the worst looking like it was running rich. Cleaned them up and reinstalled. First start did not rid the sound so far.

Im going to do some injector cleaner as well since its been a while since I have done so.
A lifter issue makes a ticking and clatter noise. Pre-ignition makes a rattly sound like you describe. Could be a bad tank of gas or an ignition problem. You might want to swap the alternate side coil and wires to cyl 6 and 7. If it is a coil/spark issue the sound will transfer to the other side. Best solution is to get a good OBD scanner and pull the codes.
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