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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 05:11 AM
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Is it safe to...

fit a 245/35/19 tire on a 19x9.5 rim??....


reason being is that when i ordered my Moven M13's from TWS, they got my order wrong and mounted 245/35's ALL AROUND when they were supposed to be only for the front rims (19x8.5) and my original order was 270/35/19's in the back...

the tires are a little stretched out but its not very noticeable and they do look okay and drivable......

just wondering if there are any tire and rim guru's who could give me an opinion on how they will respond on the road as far as safety and longevity

if it is okay then better yet ill just have them pay me back the difference, but if it is not safe then ill be again going through the hassle of LONG WAITING and haveing them give me the run arounds

it really dosent help that you live all the way in Hawaii

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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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For the definititive answer, go to Tirerack.com click on shop for tires, enter your vehicle information. Search for your brand and type tire. Once found, click on specs, look up your tire size and you will see the range of wheel widths that the tire manufacturer says is acceptable.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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245 on 9.5" is definitely a bit stretched and offers no curb protection for your brand new wheels. I would go 265 or 275, at least - 265 for better response and fuel economy. I tried to use 255's on my 9.5" when I changed wheels before but it was way too stretched for my liking, like it was about to burst! Can't imagine how the 245's would look or fit If you're doing a lot of highway, especially, I would strongly recommend swapping to wider tires - afterall, it wasn't your mistake, why compromise your safety?
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 11:16 AM
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lmao, what do you think of 235 whitey?
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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lmao, what do you think of 235 whitey?
That wud be plain suicide
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:48 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:30 PM
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Change them dude!
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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that would look odd. Kinda like a low riders car with those wired wheels.

Use at least a 265 as others have stated.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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If 235 is suicide then i wonder what my 225 would be considered. Riding Death? I have those same style tires just 225. I have done ok so far as far as curb damage and tires seem to be as safe as can possable be i image. I hate thinking of what would happen with a blow out. So i dont! I grabbed these off the w210 pic thread.

edit. well i was gonna copy two pics of my car over to here to show you the wheels but its not that ez and i dont feel like messing with it now so they are in the pic thread if you want to see them.

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Deuce, btw are you talking 9.5" or 8.5"? We're talking 9.5" here.

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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 02:39 AM
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no you can't.............i would change them out asap!
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If you still can you should probably have them changed out. All of the reasons of not having enough curb protection and the stretched look apply. But also, I believe the max width for a 245 is 9.0. Even if the max width is 9.5 inches, you also have to consider the overall diameter of the rear wheels is going to be slight smaller than the fronts with 245s on the 8 or 8.5" rim.

I don't have 19s, but I do have 17X8 in the front and 17X9.5 in the rear. When I first got my tire/wheel setup, I had 245s in the front and the "recommended" 255s in the rear. Even the 255 was stretched on the 9.5 rim, at some angles, the rear wheels looked smaller than the front (because they were). I wore the tires out, and replaced the rears with 275s and the fronts with 245s. The sidewall profile is great and the diameter looks better between all of the wheels.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Deuce, btw are you talking 9.5" or 8.5"? We're talking 9.5" here.
well neither actually, i was talking about 9's. now i am confused. Let me go reread this.
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Originally Posted by deuce zer0
If 235 is suicide then i wonder what my 225 would be considered. Riding Death? I have those same style tires just 225. I have done ok so far as far as curb damage and tires seem to be as safe as can possable be i image. I hate thinking of what would happen with a blow out. So i dont! I grabbed these off the w210 pic thread.

edit. well i was gonna copy two pics of my car over to here to show you the wheels but its not that ez and i dont feel like messing with it now so they are in the pic thread if you want to see them.

Well, back in the day, there once was a trend to stretch a narrow tire on a wide rim. I am not talking lowrider 13X7 with p155s, thats different. The trend was using Centerline wheels, 15X10 with 205/50R/15. This provided a sort of "go kart" tire profile.

Riding death? Could be, though rim damage was more frequent because of curb damage.

If you are trying to match the profile of your stretched 245s, then the 225s will probably yield the same profile that you currently have.

I wouldn't do it though, unless you like buying wheels.
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My bad! This is NOT a staggered setup! Mr. 808... has 9.5s with 245s.

If you got 270? or 275 in the front, will this fit?

I thought I read where someone had 265s in the front, but could be wrong.

If you go with 275s the overall diamter will be huge.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Now I remember Deucie, if this pic is one of the back (is it?) then you are talking about 225's on 9.5" But I guess if you went any wider on the tires you'd rub with your 20" wheels

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that is a pic of my back wheel. And yes, any lager will rub more. mine are not staggered though, but i think i am still lost as of right now. I am going to reread this thread a bit later.
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My bad! This is NOT a staggered setup! Mr. 808... has 9.5s with 245s.

If you got 270? or 275 in the front, will this fit?

I thought I read where someone had 265s in the front, but could be wrong.

If you go with 275s the overall diamter will be huge.
The diameter depends on the profile. Most of the time, you can get tires with the appropriate profile to make the overall wheel diameter the same as the OEM - you need to keep it the same or close in order for your speedo to read right. However, I believe most tire shops will only stock common tire sizes, so you may be limited to certain sizes. The wheel diameter using different tire sizes can be calculated quite easily.
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Originally Posted by Whitey
The diameter depends on the profile. Most of the time, you can get tires with the appropriate profile to make the overall wheel diameter the same as the OEM - you need to keep it the same or close in order for your speedo to read right. However, I believe most tire shops will only stock common tire sizes, so you may be limited to certain sizes. The wheel diameter using different tire sizes can be calculated quite easily.

This is true Whitey, but for 19" wheels we are going to assume aspect ratios of 35 or even 30 (if they are made?). What I am saying is that a 275 of any aspect ratio will probably be to "big", either in the width or overall diameter for the front wheel usage on a W210 without modification.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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Thanks alot guys, i thought it would be okay, but by reading all of your posts, u guys persuaded me to get the 270's, anyways, the guy from TWS (victor) was very apologetic and said he will replace them ASAP and pay for shipping which means i will be sending them today.....which ufortuately means i have to wait a week or two AGAIN,....oh well its better to be safe than sorry right......but i cant wait to mount them along with my cup kit...


once again thanks
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I got 255 on 18x10 bridgestone S03 its the lowest width i must use on 10in rim

But there is NO rim protection on my carlsson 1/16 at all...

What other consequences of having low width tyre on large width rim?

Im gonna get 265 at least for rear after 255 wear out..

Wats the maximum size of TYRE for 18x10??

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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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w/ the Moven setup you need the following:

F: 19x8.5 245/35/19
R: 19x9.5 275/30/19
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