From Projector to Xenon! Thanks ZAM2000
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Guys,
what if you already have oem xenon from the factory on your car. Our w210 cars have d2r xenon bulbs but the projectors will need d2s bulbs right? Would you not need to change something, ie perhaps the wire that comes from the ballast to the bulb to make it work?
what if you already have oem xenon from the factory on your car. Our w210 cars have d2r xenon bulbs but the projectors will need d2s bulbs right? Would you not need to change something, ie perhaps the wire that comes from the ballast to the bulb to make it work?
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Not much difference, they're all good. Preference is D2S, but if you have D2R, it should be alright (about 5-10% less bright).
You don't have to change anything. All ballast and wire are made to fit both type, D2S and D2R (except D1S). Some OEM xenon projector is made to fit only D2S. But it's not our case here (H7 projector).
You don't have to change anything. All ballast and wire are made to fit both type, D2S and D2R (except D1S). Some OEM xenon projector is made to fit only D2S. But it's not our case here (H7 projector).
Originally Posted by stizo
Guys,
what if you already have oem xenon from the factory on your car. Our w210 cars have d2r xenon bulbs but the projectors will need d2s bulbs right? Would you not need to change something, ie perhaps the wire that comes from the ballast to the bulb to make it work?
what if you already have oem xenon from the factory on your car. Our w210 cars have d2r xenon bulbs but the projectors will need d2s bulbs right? Would you not need to change something, ie perhaps the wire that comes from the ballast to the bulb to make it work?
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If you have OEM (factory), you must use D2R, switching bulb type won't work (the adaptor are made to fit D2R only).
If you have H7 base (halogen H7, for both OEM reflector and Depo projector), both type would fit.
If you have H7 base (halogen H7, for both OEM reflector and Depo projector), both type would fit.
Originally Posted by stizo
So you mean I can replace the D2r bulbs that I have in my regular factory xenons as we speak to D2s without any modifications what so ever?
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zam2000, I am trying to help a friend who owns a E430 2000 to install the clear headlight and xenon. Not going to replace those projector like you did.
We are having trouble with installing the xenon now, cause unfortunately it came with no instructions on how to install them.
I am hoping that you could help me out here.
Do I have to drill any hole on this thing to get the cables in? I dont see any holes where I can get the cables from the ballast in. The power socket on the exterior that lead to the cables of all the 4 bulb seems to be stuck fast!
I will try to get some pic of the assembly. It seems that there are a couple of different version of it I notice.
We are having trouble with installing the xenon now, cause unfortunately it came with no instructions on how to install them.
I am hoping that you could help me out here.
Do I have to drill any hole on this thing to get the cables in? I dont see any holes where I can get the cables from the ballast in. The power socket on the exterior that lead to the cables of all the 4 bulb seems to be stuck fast!
I will try to get some pic of the assembly. It seems that there are a couple of different version of it I notice.
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Originally Posted by IamJanuar
zam2000, I am trying to help a friend who owns a E430 2000 to install the clear headlight and xenon. Not going to replace those projector like you did.
We are having trouble with installing the xenon now, cause unfortunately it came with no instructions on how to install them.
I am hoping that you could help me out here.
Do I have to drill any hole on this thing to get the cables in? I dont see any holes where I can get the cables from the ballast in. The power socket on the exterior that lead to the cables of all the 4 bulb seems to be stuck fast!
I will try to get some pic of the assembly. It seems that there are a couple of different version of it I notice.
We are having trouble with installing the xenon now, cause unfortunately it came with no instructions on how to install them.
I am hoping that you could help me out here.
Do I have to drill any hole on this thing to get the cables in? I dont see any holes where I can get the cables from the ballast in. The power socket on the exterior that lead to the cables of all the 4 bulb seems to be stuck fast!
I will try to get some pic of the assembly. It seems that there are a couple of different version of it I notice.
You will need to drill a hole large enough to fit your wires through the back cover of the light housing. If you go back to page 3 of this thread, you will see how Zam attached the ballast to the back side of the cover, just drill a hole near it and send the wires through.
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Originally Posted by OceanView
You will need to drill a hole large enough to fit your wires through the back cover of the light housing. If you go back to page 3 of this thread, you will see how Zam attached the ballast to the back side of the cover, just drill a hole near it and send the wires through.
You don't need to drill any hole, just put the ballast below the light.
However, I don't like the quality...
Here is the website:
ProCarParts.Com
Their number is 626-656-2900.
I also saw the same item on ebay, too.
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Originally Posted by ruffrob
Looks kinda like mine..
They look really good.
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There're 4 version of Depo headlight:
1. 96-99 Non-xenon: H7 bulb adaptor (better, since it can hold both H7 and D2R/S)
2. 96-99 xenon: have D2S adaptor (can't hold H7), and holder for ballast on bottom.
3. 2000-later Non-xenon
4. 2000-later xenon
The xenon and non-xenon headlight are the same, except for the bulb holder style & ballast holder on the bottom of the xenon-version.
But you can really mount the ballast anywhere, as long as it's secured tightly to the headlight unit & the wire is long enough.
If you need a Depo headlight, let me know. I think I've bought enough from AutoDynamic (8 so far), they will probably give me a discount here and there.
You can just put in the W211 Hella lens and have better light, but's it's best that you calibrate the light-lens angle to have MUCH better light. Some people here already done that and know what I mean.
1. 96-99 Non-xenon: H7 bulb adaptor (better, since it can hold both H7 and D2R/S)
2. 96-99 xenon: have D2S adaptor (can't hold H7), and holder for ballast on bottom.
3. 2000-later Non-xenon
4. 2000-later xenon
The xenon and non-xenon headlight are the same, except for the bulb holder style & ballast holder on the bottom of the xenon-version.
But you can really mount the ballast anywhere, as long as it's secured tightly to the headlight unit & the wire is long enough.
If you need a Depo headlight, let me know. I think I've bought enough from AutoDynamic (8 so far), they will probably give me a discount here and there.
You can just put in the W211 Hella lens and have better light, but's it's best that you calibrate the light-lens angle to have MUCH better light. Some people here already done that and know what I mean.
Originally Posted by awtrott
Were your headlights made for the 97 model, or are they 00-02 that was retrofitted?
They look really good.
They look really good.
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will this set up work?
BOSCH Muster BI XENON PROJECTORS D2S HID
BOSCH XENON Lights & PHILIPS D2S HID Bulbs
with 96-99 MERCEDES BENZ E320 E430 W210 PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTShttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33710
BOSCH XENON Lights & PHILIPS D2S HID Bulbs
with 96-99 MERCEDES BENZ E320 E430 W210 PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTShttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33710
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You might have some problem. The Bosch projector just happen to be too long, add w/ the ignitor, and I don't think the back cover will sit tight.
The shroud won't fit, and you might have to custom mount the projector into the housing.
The shroud won't fit, and you might have to custom mount the projector into the housing.
Originally Posted by diffuzi0n
BOSCH Muster BI XENON PROJECTORS D2S HID
BOSCH XENON Lights & PHILIPS D2S HID Bulbs
with 96-99 MERCEDES BENZ E320 E430 W210 PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTShttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33710
BOSCH XENON Lights & PHILIPS D2S HID Bulbs
with 96-99 MERCEDES BENZ E320 E430 W210 PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTShttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33710
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hmm
so the list that you put there
Valeo
Bosch
hella
etc
then all of them don't fit on depo light? for example in the pic below, would i just take out the lens and fit it on the ebay product listed above?
Valeo
Bosch
hella
etc
then all of them don't fit on depo light? for example in the pic below, would i just take out the lens and fit it on the ebay product listed above?
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Nope, none would fit either. You could give that a try, but I think you should talk to those who've done it (Shane, Raymond, E55Cent...) so that you won't waste money and time on it. You can't fit the lens in the existing Depo projector either, since they won't have same radius as the Depo one, not to metion different focal point (which require a unique distant between lens, shield, and bulb)
The only two that would fit nicely is the Audi bi-xenon RS6 (not the pre 2002 A6), and Mercedes W211 E55 xenon, or W211 projector (some work to fit both of them in), since the Depo one is based on these projector dimension (copy).
You can get any of these projectors from eBay, forum, or contact me. I have a load of RS6, E55 bi-xenon, and W211 projector.
The only two that would fit nicely is the Audi bi-xenon RS6 (not the pre 2002 A6), and Mercedes W211 E55 xenon, or W211 projector (some work to fit both of them in), since the Depo one is based on these projector dimension (copy).
You can get any of these projectors from eBay, forum, or contact me. I have a load of RS6, E55 bi-xenon, and W211 projector.
Originally Posted by diffuzi0n
so the list that you put there
Valeo
Bosch
hella
etc
then all of them don't fit on depo light? for example in the pic below, would i just take out the lens and fit it on the ebay product listed above?
Valeo
Bosch
hella
etc
then all of them don't fit on depo light? for example in the pic below, would i just take out the lens and fit it on the ebay product listed above?
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zam i will contact you when i am done traveling. Going to austria and turkey hehe. I want to see how much money i will have left over. Also, the dumb accident that I was just in forced me to reroute my funds for my xenon project into fixing the bumpers and rims. btw, having xenons and the new projectors, it will not increase your brightness in far lights? the only upgrade for this that philips h7 bulb? This xenon upgrade is primerly for city purposes, right?
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Having xenon retrofitted into projector w/ good lens will increase brightness up front & far away, significantly .
All of the H7 phiilps or any other brand is only good if you compare them within the halogen domain, xenon is very much in its own league in color, brightness, and illumination down the road
All of the H7 phiilps or any other brand is only good if you compare them within the halogen domain, xenon is very much in its own league in color, brightness, and illumination down the road
Originally Posted by diffuzi0n
btw, having xenons and the new projectors, it will not increase your brightness in far lights?
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Stock MB Xenon to Projectors?
zam2000, related question -- I have a stock Mercedes Xenon setup. Any gotchas and/or suggestions on how I go about upgrading to projectors, while keeping them Xenon?
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Originally Posted by zam2000
There're 4 version of Depo headlight:
1. 96-99 Non-xenon: H7 bulb adaptor (better, since it can hold both H7 and D2R/S)
2. 96-99 xenon: have D2S adaptor (can't hold H7), and holder for ballast on bottom.
3. 2000-later Non-xenon
4. 2000-later xenon
The xenon and non-xenon headlight are the same, except for the bulb holder style & ballast holder on the bottom of the xenon-version.
But you can really mount the ballast anywhere, as long as it's secured tightly to the headlight unit & the wire is long enough.
If you need a Depo headlight, let me know. I think I've bought enough from AutoDynamic (8 so far), they will probably give me a discount here and there.
You can just put in the W211 Hella lens and have better light, but's it's best that you calibrate the light-lens angle to have MUCH better light. Some people here already done that and know what I mean.
1. 96-99 Non-xenon: H7 bulb adaptor (better, since it can hold both H7 and D2R/S)
2. 96-99 xenon: have D2S adaptor (can't hold H7), and holder for ballast on bottom.
3. 2000-later Non-xenon
4. 2000-later xenon
The xenon and non-xenon headlight are the same, except for the bulb holder style & ballast holder on the bottom of the xenon-version.
But you can really mount the ballast anywhere, as long as it's secured tightly to the headlight unit & the wire is long enough.
If you need a Depo headlight, let me know. I think I've bought enough from AutoDynamic (8 so far), they will probably give me a discount here and there.
You can just put in the W211 Hella lens and have better light, but's it's best that you calibrate the light-lens angle to have MUCH better light. Some people here already done that and know what I mean.
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You have two options:
1. Buy the new depo projector, retrofit Hella lens (a must !!) and D2S bulb, and use existing xenon ballast. Sell your existing headlight (not much value), or keep it around.
2. Selling your existing xenon headlight (you'll probably fetch about $400-600 for it depend on condition). Buy new Depo projector, retrofit Hella lens, D2S bulbs, and xenon ballast.
I recommend the later option. In the last few months, I have helped retrofitting ~ 10 set of headlights for the W210. 4 out of them have OEM xenon, one selected first options, the other three went with the later. The auto leveling will not working anymore, but I don't think that's a big deal.
You can find most of the part on eBay or HID forum, and do the job yourself (not that bad, just need careful planning), I also have most of the part and offer the service of xenon & lens retrofitting into Depo headlight. I can also get you most of the part & Depo headlight have you decided to DIY.
My email is hhbk@yahoo.com if you need more detail.
1. Buy the new depo projector, retrofit Hella lens (a must !!) and D2S bulb, and use existing xenon ballast. Sell your existing headlight (not much value), or keep it around.
2. Selling your existing xenon headlight (you'll probably fetch about $400-600 for it depend on condition). Buy new Depo projector, retrofit Hella lens, D2S bulbs, and xenon ballast.
I recommend the later option. In the last few months, I have helped retrofitting ~ 10 set of headlights for the W210. 4 out of them have OEM xenon, one selected first options, the other three went with the later. The auto leveling will not working anymore, but I don't think that's a big deal.
You can find most of the part on eBay or HID forum, and do the job yourself (not that bad, just need careful planning), I also have most of the part and offer the service of xenon & lens retrofitting into Depo headlight. I can also get you most of the part & Depo headlight have you decided to DIY.
My email is hhbk@yahoo.com if you need more detail.
Originally Posted by golfxtz
zam2000, related question -- I have a stock Mercedes Xenon setup. Any gotchas and/or suggestions on how I go about upgrading to projectors, while keeping them Xenon?
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Thats what im going to do with mine.I have xenons already,but i can't decide what color projection lights i should by,black or chrome?My Benz is green so its hard one for me to pick 
Any suggestions??????
Thanks
Any suggestions??????Thanks
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Go with chrome, black looks horrible
Originally Posted by RhinoLT
Thats what im going to do with mine.I have xenons already,but i can't decide what color projection lights i should by,black or chrome?My Benz is green so its hard one for me to pick Any suggestions??????
Thanks
Any suggestions??????Thanks
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Go with chrome, black looks horrible. If you're in LA and can do pick-up, I can help to get you a set for $380 out-the-door.
Suck, but most shop around the area don't allow local-pickup.
Suck, but most shop around the area don't allow local-pickup.
Originally Posted by RhinoLT
Thats what im going to do with mine.I have xenons already,but i can't decide what color projection lights i should by,black or chrome?My Benz is green so its hard one for me to pick Any suggestions??????
Thanks
Any suggestions??????Thanks
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Email me at hhbk@yahoo.com if you want any part for this. Take 2-3 days, but probably save you around $40-50.
Originally Posted by RhinoLT
Yes im in L.A area.
