OceanView

Do the upgrade if you can, you won't regret it.

stizo

Guys,
what if you already have oem xenon from the factory on your car. Our w210 cars have d2r xenon bulbs but the projectors will need d2s bulbs right? Would you not need to change something, ie perhaps the wire that comes from the ballast to the bulb to make it work?

zam2000

Not much difference, they're all good. Preference is D2S, but if you have D2R, it should be alright (about 5-10% less bright).

You don't have to change anything. All ballast and wire are made to fit both type, D2S and D2R (except D1S). Some OEM xenon projector is made to fit only D2S. But it's not our case here (H7 projector).

stizo

So you mean I can replace the D2r bulbs that I have in my regular factory xenons as we speak to D2s without any modifications what so ever?
Thanks

zam2000

If you have OEM (factory), you must use D2R, switching bulb type won't work (the adaptor are made to fit D2R only).

If you have H7 base (halogen H7, for both OEM reflector and Depo projector), both type would fit.

IamJanuar

zam2000, I am trying to help a friend who owns a E430 2000 to install the clear headlight and xenon. Not going to replace those projector like you did.
We are having trouble with installing the xenon now, cause unfortunately it came with no instructions on how to install them.
I am hoping that you could help me out here.
Do I have to drill any hole on this thing to get the cables in? I dont see any holes where I can get the cables from the ballast in. The power socket on the exterior that lead to the cables of all the 4 bulb seems to be stuck fast!
I will try to get some pic of the assembly. It seems that there are a couple of different version of it I notice.

OceanView

You will need to drill a hole large enough to fit your wires through the back cover of the light housing. If you go back to page 3 of this thread, you will see how Zam attached the ballast to the back side of the cover, just drill a hole near it and send the wires through.

Ben'z

I just found the new projector for xenon, made by DEPO, too.
You don't need to drill any hole, just put the ballast below the light.
However, I don't like the quality...
Here is the website:

ProCarParts.Com

Their number is 626-656-2900.

I also saw the same item on ebay, too.

awtrott

Were your headlights made for the 97 model, or are they 00-02 that was retrofitted?

They look really good.

diffuzi0n

once you put hella lense, did you have do something to focus the beam on the depo projector? Or once you fit the lense on the projector, it should be focused already?

zam2000

There're 4 version of Depo headlight:

1. 96-99 Non-xenon: H7 bulb adaptor (better, since it can hold both H7 and D2R/S)
2. 96-99 xenon: have D2S adaptor (can't hold H7), and holder for ballast on bottom.
3. 2000-later Non-xenon
4. 2000-later xenon

The xenon and non-xenon headlight are the same, except for the bulb holder style & ballast holder on the bottom of the xenon-version.

But you can really mount the ballast anywhere, as long as it's secured tightly to the headlight unit & the wire is long enough.

If you need a Depo headlight, let me know. I think I've bought enough from AutoDynamic (8 so far), they will probably give me a discount here and there.

You can just put in the W211 Hella lens and have better light, but's it's best that you calibrate the light-lens angle to have MUCH better light. Some people here already done that and know what I mean.

diffuzi0n

BOSCH Muster BI XENON PROJECTORS D2S HID
BOSCH XENON Lights & PHILIPS D2S HID Bulbs
with 96-99 MERCEDES BENZ E320 E430 W210 PROJECTOR HEADLIGHTShttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33710

zam2000

You might have some problem. The Bosch projector just happen to be too long, add w/ the ignitor, and I don't think the back cover will sit tight.

The shroud won't fit, and you might have to custom mount the projector into the housing.

diffuzi0n

so the list that you put there
Valeo
Bosch
hella
etc
then all of them don't fit on depo light? for example in the pic below, would i just take out the lens and fit it on the ebay product listed above?

zam2000

Nope, none would fit either. You could give that a try, but I think you should talk to those who've done it (Shane, Raymond, E55Cent...) so that you won't waste money and time on it. You can't fit the lens in the existing Depo projector either, since they won't have same radius as the Depo one, not to metion different focal point (which require a unique distant between lens, shield, and bulb)

The only two that would fit nicely is the Audi bi-xenon RS6 (not the pre 2002 A6), and Mercedes W211 E55 xenon, or W211 projector (some work to fit both of them in), since the Depo one is based on these projector dimension (copy).

You can get any of these projectors from eBay, forum, or contact me. I have a load of RS6, E55 bi-xenon, and W211 projector.

diffuzi0n

zam i will contact you when i am done traveling. Going to austria and turkey hehe. I want to see how much money i will have left over. Also, the dumb accident that I was just in forced me to reroute my funds for my xenon project into fixing the bumpers and rims. btw, having xenons and the new projectors, it will not increase your brightness in far lights? the only upgrade for this that philips h7 bulb? This xenon upgrade is primerly for city purposes, right?

zam2000

Having xenon retrofitted into projector w/ good lens will increase brightness up front & far away, significantly .

All of the H7 phiilps or any other brand is only good if you compare them within the halogen domain, xenon is very much in its own league in color, brightness, and illumination down the road

mike430sport

very nice

golfxtz

zam2000, related question -- I have a stock Mercedes Xenon setup. Any gotchas and/or suggestions on how I go about upgrading to projectors, while keeping them Xenon?

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zam2000

You have two options:

1. Buy the new depo projector, retrofit Hella lens (a must !!) and D2S bulb, and use existing xenon ballast. Sell your existing headlight (not much value), or keep it around.

2. Selling your existing xenon headlight (you'll probably fetch about $400-600 for it depend on condition). Buy new Depo projector, retrofit Hella lens, D2S bulbs, and xenon ballast.

I recommend the later option. In the last few months, I have helped retrofitting ~ 10 set of headlights for the W210. 4 out of them have OEM xenon, one selected first options, the other three went with the later. The auto leveling will not working anymore, but I don't think that's a big deal.

You can find most of the part on eBay or HID forum, and do the job yourself (not that bad, just need careful planning), I also have most of the part and offer the service of xenon & lens retrofitting into Depo headlight. I can also get you most of the part & Depo headlight have you decided to DIY.

My email is hhbk@yahoo.com if you need more detail.

RhinoLT

Thats what im going to do with mine.I have xenons already,but i can't decide what color projection lights i should by,black or chrome?My Benz is green so its hard one for me to pick Any suggestions??????


Thanks

zam2000

Go with chrome, black looks horrible

zam2000

Go with chrome, black looks horrible. If you're in LA and can do pick-up, I can help to get you a set for $380 out-the-door.

Suck, but most shop around the area don't allow local-pickup.

RhinoLT

Yes im in L.A area.

zam2000

Email me at hhbk@yahoo.com if you want any part for this. Take 2-3 days, but probably save you around $40-50.