Ben'z

Anyone know if it is possible, or difficult to put an e430 engine to an e320?

sosh

Anythings possible but its not worth the cost or effort. Go buy a V8 if you want one

Whitey

.....or bolt on a Kleemann (or other) SC

Green E-300 DT

Please don't forget that the rear ends are different also, and by the time you change everything,
you'd be better off money wise selling your car and buying the V8.

Ben'z

Thanks for all your advice!

Paxfobiscum

I know someone who trashed his E430 engine after running into a deep puddle and bought his car back from the insurance company. Be bought a used S500 engine (with only 5,000 miles) for $10 Gs and had it installed it in his essentially salvaged E430 body. With a professional MB mechanic he hired it took them about 17 hours to do the job. I understand that he changed his computer as well. He claims the car purrs like a kitten and rans very well, although he takes it slow at first gear because his ESP keeps on activating. He also believes that he should change his brakes to accomodate the stronger engine. I have seen this engine and I have ridden the car before and after the change.

It is possible but his car was formerly an E430 but I do not see any reason why an E320 body cannot accomodate an E430 engine.

That fellow is active and lurking around these forums somewhere so be cautious in your comments.....

paxfo...

jemmy

Then we can jump into the conclusion that anything is possible if we are serious enough to do it right?

Whitey

A W210 E500, that's tight. Wonder what the dyno results look like........

BlownV8

Hardly! That is a joke right? An extra 25 or so hp is hardly worth the effort of upgrading brakes. Besides, bigger brakes don't save you from being stupid.

He should probably be around 245 to 255 RWHP. A 210 E55 will usually between 280 to 290 RWHP if the engine and eletronics are in good shape.

Whitey

Mmmmm, if I'm not mistaken, that's not much more than the stock E320 although torque must surely increase quite significantly.

Alexbenz

not worth it, you'd need wiring harness, ecu, tanny and engine........your better off super charging the 320............

Paxfobiscum

Sorry, but I don't understand what you mean. He needs to upgrade his brakes in order for him to have more stopping power due to his relatively stronger engine, not that the S500 engine is exponentially faster than the E430 engine but it certainly is still stronger. As Steve K says, a faster car is crazy if you cannot have the power to slow it down. Steve has seen the car by the way....

Putting a super-charger was pointless because his E430 engine was already blown. So he still had to buy another engine or just get another car. With the mods on his car and the relatively good body, he just could not part with it. I wouldn't but that's just me.

paxfo...

The more important question is... Which Nokia phone should I get to get the UHI kit from Steve???

MB AMG

Now a stock S500 comes with 16 inch wheels (MY2000-2002). Same with the E320 and the E430. What is the difference betweeen these brakes and what are the specs?

MB AMG

BlownV8 is simply saying that the stock brakes will be able to handle the extra power from the 5.0L M113 (at least I think).

Paxfobiscum

I believe you are right, but I am only relaying what he said. So maybe he really does not need new brakes then.??~!!

BlownV8

There is a huge difference between RWHP and crank hp. I'd be surprised if the E320 could dyno higher than 180 RWHP.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. The stock E430 brakes are large enough to handle much more power. Once again, larger brakes don't really do much for you if you drive like an idiot or if you don't track your car. If the ASR light is coming on frequently, he needs to take his foot out of the pedal or needs larger rear tires. Given the small contact area with stock non-sport E430 tires/rims, he would need larger tires with the extra torque.

paomien

FYI, I've seen the car as well. It's a sport E430, so it has the wider tires. Nobody's saying this guy drives like an idiot. I took a drive in it. Driving normally around town it feels peppier than the standard 4.3, but if you stomp on the pedal, that's when the ESP lights up. I do agree with the owner saying it needs better brakes, though, somehow the car doesn't stop as good as a standard E430 does. (yes, he has new pads and rotors before somebody starts blasting me)

Whitey

0-100: 10.1sec
100-0: 10 minutes

Nothing a brake upgrade, beefier shoes (and soles) won't fix, I'm sure......assuming these have not been updated :v

Messerchmidt

just toss a small block (or big block) chevy in there, and your good to go