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Old 02-11-2005, 02:13 AM
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Found this mod combo worked, and CHEAP

Hey guys, I just got my baby back up and on the road again today. I had my E320 parked while I shipped off the ECU to Oliver at SpeedtuningUSA.com. While it was being done, I bought a cheap cold air intake off Ebay to try it out. (hell, for 40.00 you can't lose much) So I tossed my ECU in and changed the air filter box out for the intake. I get back in, turn the key, and ...... Nada, nothing. Checked everything, and again, nada. So I check under the hood while my friend turned the key, I heard it click, loose electrical plug, then it fires up. The engine sound was deeper, but not louder. (I had this problem on my last air-intake system on a Dodge Stratus) I take it for a testdrive and turned off the traction control, and got it 0-100 on a back-country road very quickly, except takeoff. When I got home, I realized that the W mode was selected, so I flipped it down to S, and WOW, we're talking a sedan that'll throw you back in your seat (Unless you own an E55) But felt very much like a stock E430. Anyway, total cost of project was under $400 and it turned out great. Just thought I'd share in case anyone else is looking for cheap upgrades

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Thanks for sharing but not very useful without details.

Any pics of the intake? Brand? What ECU upgrade was it?
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and how does ecu affect emissions
also how does air intake affect emmissions
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I'd like to see some stats and figures posted. SOP leave too much to the imagination.....or placebo effect.
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dyno slips are important, everyone who throws on a chip needs to dyno before and after...i've heard some people trying chips from other companies and on the dyno sheet it shows no chance....
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A buddy of mine was using the Speedtuning software, he showed me the A/F graph and it looked real lean across the board...I'd be cautious to who tune's your ME unit.
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Rich,

You said that right. You get what you pay for.
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Rich,

You said that right. You get what you pay for.
C,

Trudat buddy, this pertains to the IRoar too? :p The arrival of ur new sh*t will blow your mind.
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How about upsolute?

Originally Posted by Richard023
A buddy of mine was using the Speedtuning software, he showed me the A/F graph and it looked real lean across the board...I'd be cautious to who tune's your ME unit.
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hi ben, it was nice meeting you and chatting with you the other day, i might be getting some of the stuff you wanted sooner then you think.....will keep you posted...

PS, i like the sterring wheel, i need one for myself....
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Originally Posted by benchang88
How about upsolute?
Hey Ben,

Been there, done that! The Upsolute software provided no gains on the dyno when I tested it. Furthermore, Lanny the company's So Cal rep is a nice guy, but doesn't return calls or emails.

Rather then purchasing an off the shelve software, look into Split Second's products were they can actually tune it on the dyno in your presence...seeing is sometimes believing. The Powerchip is also a good product that provides good results.

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i agree with rich, i explained to ben about other companies, we deal with powerchip and have had nothing but good reviews.....hopefully once we get our dyno soon i'll post some graphs.....
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Originally Posted by alexbenz
i agree with rich, i explained to ben about other companies, we deal with powerchip and have had nothing but good reviews.....hopefully once we get our dyno soon i'll post some graphs.....
Good Stuff! You guys installing a dyno Dynojet? Hummm...with my BNB VIP discount, 3 pulls will only cost 5 bucks...DANG!!! PUT ME ON THE LIST! I'm currently paying $150 for a couple of pulls.
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Good Stuff! You guys installing a dyno Dynojet? Hummm...with my BNB VIP discount, 3 pulls will only cost 5 bucks...DANG!!! PUT ME ON THE LIST! I'm currently paying $150 for a couple of pulls.
yep, dynojet...LOL, 3 pulls for 150, where you going? it'll be a lot cheaper at BNB.....
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Originally Posted by alexbenz
i agree with rich, i explained to ben about other companies, we deal with powerchip and have had nothing but good reviews.....hopefully once we get our dyno soon i'll post some graphs.....
stemags just measured his powerchip (93 Gold, or something) with his new G-Timer ....getting some good results.......
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great, people at powerchip are hands down very nice and helpful, unlike other places they serve every person the same....
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Originally Posted by Whitey
stemags just measured his powerchip (93 Gold, or something) with his new G-Timer ....getting some good results.......
Like having my own dyno
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Originally Posted by stemags
Like having my own dyno
Dynoes are done under controlled but consistent conditions, for comparison, whilst those gadgets are extremely handy for on-going monitoring and I WANT ONE!!!!! C'mon, give us some stats when you're ready laddy...and remember to measure before and after u put those pullies and new wheels on - no cheating
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hi ben, it was nice meeting you and chatting with you the other day, i might be getting some of the stuff you wanted sooner then you think.....will keep you posted...

PS, i like the sterring wheel, i need one for myself....

Hi, Alex,

It was glad to talk to you, too!
Can't wait for the next!
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Originally Posted by Richard023
Hey Ben,

Been there, done that! The Upsolute software provided no gains on the dyno when I tested it. Furthermore, Lanny the company's So Cal rep is a nice guy, but doesn't return calls or emails.

Rather then purchasing an off the shelve software, look into Split Second's products were they can actually tune it on the dyno in your presence...seeing is sometimes believing. The Powerchip is also a good product that provides good results.
Powerchip, it seems everyone recommands them.
But, the price
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You got it pal,,,used it twice
Remember ,,1st run was in rain,,w/snow tires
2nd was on a turning road,w/lil traffic
1) 0-60 6.95secs,242HP at 53MPH,in second gear,using Drive,not tiptronic.1/4 mile in 13.9secs
2) 0-60 7.00secs,235HP at 51MPH ,in second gear,using Drive(forgot 1/4 #'s)

Originally Posted by Whitey
Dynoes are done under controlled but consistent conditions, for comparison, whilst those gadgets are extremely handy for on-going monitoring and I WANT ONE!!!!! C'mon, give us some stats when you're ready laddy...and remember to measure before and after u put those pullies and new wheels on - no cheating
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The #'s your GTech is giving you are way off. 13.9 in the 1/4???????.The only way to get true #'s are the track or Dyno.

The GTech is useful in this way: Whatever #'s your getting now, write down and compare with the #'s you get when you modify. It will give you a roundabout estimate but that's all.

BTW: Car looks really good.

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Originally Posted by prof.griff
The #'s your GTech is giving you are way off. 13.9 in the 1/4???????.The only way to get true #'s are the track or Dyno.

The GTech is useful in this way: Whatever #'s your getting now, write down and compare with the #'s you get when you modify. It will give you a roundabout estimate but that's all.

BTW: Car looks really good.
Could he have entered the wrong car stat's (weight, drag coefficientn etc. all critical to the normal operation of the device) in the first place?
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Sorry for the delay, been working a lot lately. The chip was from speedtuning.com, and I have no complaints whatsoever. I don't need a dyno to know that it now puts me into the seat harder than it did before. The intake I bought was a 25.00 cheapie off of Ebay. Not K&N, not AMG, and not their prices either.

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Yes, I know that AMG doesn't make air intakes, and that they're the higher end Benz
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Originally Posted by benchang88
Powerchip, it seems everyone recommands them.
But, the price
True it commands a hefty price tag, but the gains are proven. Also, their local if any issues arises and Wayne @ PC takes it personal when any of his clients are not satisfied with their product, their customer service is top notch.


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