stemags

Yeah,well like I mentioned,its a matter of preference,the numbers dont lie.

BlownV8

The results were from Tire Rack surverys of the Gs-D3's. People either loved these tires or really hated them. More loved them than not but there were some very strong negative reviews.

That is a very ignorant comment. Just because a tire is made by a certain manufacturer does not make it better than another. I have used the Goodyear GS-D3's and the Kuhmo's and I can honestly say that I would never buy the Goodyear's but would buy the Kumho's again. My company pays for my tires so cost is not an issue. There is a lot of psychology in buyers opinions and it is greatly affected by marketing. There are many weak minded individuals that fall for a companies marketing as fact. What's that saying....perception is reality? I have the opposite view. Perception is the lazy mans reality! If you have never tried a tire, you can not form an objective opinion on the tires. I am very objective in my review.

I remember how Hundai was always viewed as a POS. Look at the company now. They have ranked higher than Mercedes in quality for the last few years. I would guess using your logic that Hyundai could never build a higher quality car than Mercedes? Yep, there were many ignorant people that thought the same thing about Honda's and Toyota's twenty years ago.

BlownV8

This is interesting. Wow, the Kuhmo's are actually performing better than the Yokohama's and BF Goodrich tires in many tests. I guess this blows your theory out of the water:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/max_perf_charts.jsp

Ben'z

Hi,

Anyone has any experience with Goodyear F1 supercar, 235/45/17?

Thanks,
Ben

patrick_y

I have the BF Goodrich 235/45 R17 G Force T/A KDWS tire on the E320. These tires are cheap at Costco, very decent in the handling, very long life (30k miles i'd say), and very firm ride.

The actual design of the tire isn't a pretty one. They don't have curb protectors or anything like that.

But they definitely do a good job, and for $130 a piece, they're a steal.

I've heard mixed reviews about the Kumhos. Personally, since tires are so important and such a safety issue, I think that I would personally just put on tires from bigger and more experienced companies.

abalto

Go with these. You will not be disappointed. I have put them on 3 of my 6 cars thus far and they are great. Click here...

Huachipato

I've had Falken tires on my Mustang. They were not the 512 though. The ones I had actually handled real nicely for the price. Goodyear GS-D3s are tires I would put on my Mustang - have heard nothing but good things about them. But the way I see it, they are too expensive compared to the others out there.

Consumer Reviews rated the Falken 512 #1 for touring cars. Another web page that might help is epinions.com (purely reviews of different products). Tirerack does not carry Falken tires, so there is really no fair way to compare one with the next.

For what it's worth, the Falken 512 and the GoodYear GS-D3 are in two different category tires. The Falken is desinged to be quiet and smooth and have a long tread life. The GoodYear is designed as a performance tire with no regard to road noise or harshness or longevity of tread life.

Huachipato

I have some Kumhos ASX tires on my Cobra now. They are decent - the only part that I really hate is that they seem to get out of balance after about 500 miles of use. Decent in most regards, but end up going to the tire shop often for a balancing. It could be the tire size too. All I know is that it is annoying as heck and don't care to purchase these tires again after they wear out.

zoink

Back to original topic...

I put these tires on my beater car.... IMO, so-so as compared to Bridgestone Potenza RE950 (previous tires). Pros: Falken is A LOT quieter... slightly better hydroplanning.... Cons: Not good for cornering AT ALL... the rubber the walls are too soft. Don't feel confident at all when cornering.

BlownV8

Wow, this was brought back from the dead. Since posting anything on this topic, I've gone from Kuhmo's 712's to Michelin Pilot Sports to Avon Tech M500's. I have a new favorite for my E55 and it's the Avon's. Great tire and, IMHO, they handle just as good if not better than the Michelins and they are half the price.

cragigotgame

I had these falkens on my car, they were fine. Just didnt last very long though. I think I only got like 38k on em

locket

The Falken Fk452 Is Their New Flagship Tyre And Is Excelent.

It Is Keenly Priced, Has Good Grip, Sidewall Strength Has Been Increased For Better Cornering.

The Big Bonus Is That It Looks Good As Well Due Too It's Square Edge Profile.

Dont Know How Good They Are For Wear Long Term As They Have Only Been On The Car Two Weeks.

patrick_y

Thanks for the input. Yea, I'm not sure I want to go with the smaller tire companies.

bglz42

I've been running Falken Ziex's for years on several cars. I think it's the best bang for the buck tire I've ever used. I just replaced the loud POS Dunlops on my wife's 2k E430 with Falken Ziex-512's and absolutely LOVE them!

abalto

Keep running all those expensive tires people! Waste your $$$!

michakaveli

My $0.02. I had the Goodyear F1 GS-D3's on my E300 and I will admit, they are some of the worst tires I have used. I haven't gone through to many sets of tires, but these Goodyears were exceptionally, nothing special. They were loud and got much louder the more they wore. I initially was seeking a good tire to tackle dry and wet conditions (no snow). After reading many good reviews on the Goodyear I tried them. This past weekend after a long trip with the car I took it to my old indy as I had developed a loud noise and vibration. Put the car on the lift and it turned out the rear tires had completely worn out, especially on the inside edge of the tires. They recommended the Falken ZE912's as a replacement. Apparently the 912's are replacing the 512's (from what I gathered) Either way, the ride was night and day. The ride was smooth, quiet and COMFORTABLE. For someone looking for a tire with those mentioned performance characteristics for a daily driver, I would recommend those.

Quadcammer

I think a lot of it comes down to buying the right type of tire for your car.

A non AMG 210 does not need GS-D3s. If you have modded the suspension out the wazoo and are some sort of handling freak, then maybe (but id say that you bought the wrong car).

These are touring cars, and really don't need high performance tires. And as you notice, hi-po tires are noisy, ride stiffer, and wear faster.

CA_Tallguy

Touring? Hah! You have not driven with me in my 420. Sometimes I tour, but often I do not. Like the drive back to SoCal from SEMA. I got some respect from a few folks. I agree with you on the wear -- my BFG g-force sport TA NT2's are being eaten up the way I drive. But it's so fun! And I'm a "good" driver not a bad idiot.

Quadcammer

Driving a touring car like its a sports car does not make it a sports car.

The standard E-class is not a performance oriented vehicle.

zam2000

I agreed. I used to run the Goodyear GS-D3 or Michelin PS2 on my W210 (17" wheel). Both are good, but pricey & quite noisy, especially after 5K or so miles.

With my W220, with 18" staggered wheels, there isn't much choice on wheel. I opted to for the Falken 452 series. I have always buy tire from tirerack, they don't carry Falken. After much reading of reviews on the discountiredirect, I gave it a shot.

To my surprise, the handle and look as nice as the Goodyear and Michelin, cost 1/2-1/3 as much, and is much more QUIEETTTTTTT and the ride is more SMOOOOOTHHHHH. I've put 10K mile on it so far, and it's still quiet as new, and there're plenty of thread left, probably for another 20-30K mile. Both the goodyear and michelin never got me pass 25K mile.

I've been kicking myself since. Had I knew earlier, I would have used the Falken on my W210, saved tons of money, and got much better ride

I like the Falken so much, when discounttiredirect have it on sale couple weeks ago ($100-200 discount each set, free shipping as always), I bought two extra set as spare !!!. I am avg 4K mile /month, so it won't be long before I use them up

FlatlineEF9

I found the ziex to be loud after some wear. Not as bad as my advan a032Rs but still rather noisy.

Joe_nj

I have Falken 912s on my E430 bought from Discount tires direct for $93, more recent model than the 512s. They're fine. Consumer Reports rated them #1 last month. You can also get them at Sears for $127.

TonyC

also running 912s right now (tho not on a W210). Got 'em for $200 mounted all around from a local shop. no shipping, no tax.

GREAT tires for the money. 4 months and 6K mi later, almost zilch wear. better overall traction than the 512s (Which they replaced) and ALMOST as quiet.

michakaveli

I've put on about 2k miles on my ZE912's so far...... Love them. Best tires I've purchased ever to date.

Big J

I have use Falken tire s and i find the side wall to hard and feel all the joint in the freeway which makes the car unstable.